DrumBeat: October 28, 2007


Crude Oil Rises to Record on Turkey-Iraq Tensions, Nigeria

Crude oil rose to a record $92.40 a barrel in New York after Turkey's Foreign Minister said his government is considering "all options" including military action to deal with Kurdish rebels operating from Iraq.

"Our patience has come to an end," Ali Babacan said yesterday in Tehran following talks with his Iranian counterpart Manouchehr Mottaki. In Nigeria, Italy's Eni SpA said armed men seized six of its workers in an attack on a supply ship, heightening concerns about potential supply disruptions.

Qatari Oil Minister Says OPEC Can't Curb Price of Crude Oil

Qatari Oil Minister Abdullah bin Hamad al-Attiyah said the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries "can't do anything" to quell rising oil prices, which breached $92 for the first time in New York last week.

"The market is under psychological pressure, not demand pressure," al-Attiyah said in an interview today in Doha.


Kollek Says Taxes, Costs Holding Back Projects

Russian oil firms should focus more on maintaining output from mature fields to prevent production from stagnating because tax rules and rising costs make it difficult to launch new projects, a senior executive said.


Russia: Competition Body Urges More Coordination Among Refiners

The Federal Anti-Monopoly Service wants oil firms to disclose and coordinate maintenance work at refineries to avoid a repetition of sharp gasoline and diesel price spikes, an agency official said.


Designer pays for land rights on own ranch to stop drilling for oil

Environmentalists in the US have a habit of mounting loud, vigorous but ultimately futile campaigns against thirsty oil companies looking for land to exploit. So the US fashion designer Tom Ford is taking no chances.

Ford, who established his reputation with Gucci and Yves Saint-Laurent before setting up his own label, has bought the mineral rights beneath his ranch in New Mexico, scene of a growing battle between the oil industry and environmentalists. Land records show he paid the state $84,000 for the rights on more than 1,400 acres of his own land, effectively meaning that he has now bought the land twice.


Shell Shuts Hydrotreater Unit at Deer Park, Texas, Refinery

Royal Dutch Shell Plc, Europe's largest oil company, shut a catalytic cracker feed hydrotreater unit at its refining complex in Deer Park, Texas.


Putin Snipes at EU on Access to Assets

President Vladimir Putin scrapped with European Union leaders Friday over Brussels' plans to limit foreign investment in energy markets at a summit that achieved little on key sticking points.

Putin, in his final EU-Russia summit as president, took a swipe at proposals from Brussels that could prevent gas monopoly Gazprom from buying up power grids and pipelines while the 27-nation bloc revamps its gas and electricity markets.


Responding to rockets, Israel slashes Gaza fuel supply

Israel restricted the flow of fuel to Hamas-controlled Gaza on Sunday, a move it vowed to take in response to "the incessant firing of rockets into Israel," an adviser to Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said.


China and its Role in the Oil Price Rise

There are a number of reasons behind the rapid increase in oil prices. Some people say that the reason is OPEC members' failure to take the initiative to raise production to achieve the required balance between supply and demand in international markets. In fact, there is no actual shortfall in markets; the current anxiety is due to the fear of a surprise interruption in future supplies, for political, climatic or industrial reasons. The commercial oil reserve, especially in western industrial industries, stands at the average levels it has reached over the last five years. The criticisms of OPEC by the International Energy Agency can be summarized as follows: OPEC states don't want to increase production enough to enable western industrial states to compensate for what has been drawn down from the commercial reserve in past months.


New Kuwait oil minister appointed in widely expected Cabinet reshuffle

Bader Mishari al-Humaidhi was appointed as Kuwait's oil minister on Sunday in a widely expected Cabinet reshuffle.

Al-Humaidhi, 59, who previously served as finance minister, was given the key oil portfolio, the state-owned Kuwait Television reported.


Kuwait must maintain oil quota in int'l markets - Al-Humaidhi

Oil minister Bader Al-Humaidhi stressed Sunday that Kuwait must maintain its quota in international petroleum markets to guarantee steady income and utilize revenues in development.


Petroleum Ministry to Sign Agreement for Constructing Refinery in Cooperation with Venezuela, Iran and Malaysia

Syria, Iran and Venezuela will sign on Tuesday a partnership agreement for constructing a crude oil refinery with a capacity of 140 thousand barrels per day east of Homs. The signing of the agreement will be followed by founding a joint company for carrying out studies and implementing the project.


High oil prices hit Chinese petrol stations

Fuel shortages were reported at petrol stations throughout China Sunday as the cost of oil on the domestic market lagged behind record global prices, prompting refiners to slow deliveries.

...With government subsidies keeping fuel prices artificially low, petrol stations are either running out of supplies or are shutting operations hoping for a state-approved rise.


Oil price 'grounds' N Korea fleet

North Korea has been forced to ground a fleet of Soviet-era military planes because of the high oil price, South Korea's Yonhap news agency reported.

Fuel is being diverted for other training flights, Yonhap quoted a military source as saying.

...North Korea's impoverished economy has suffered from energy shortages for years, and rising oil prices have made the situation worse.


Why predicting oil prices is a mug's game

At the end of the day, predicting oil prices is a mug's game.

Yet no economist would ever admit this. For a start, they would be out of a job. Because their real purpose is not to spin accurate forecasts, it is to conjure an atmosphere of confidence and calm.


Russia Pushes Oil Companies to Find More Oil in Eastern Siberia

In order to fill the ESPO, Eastern Siberia must produce 56 million tons of crude annually by 2020 and sustain production at this level, said Arkady Yefimov, head of the Siberian Institute of Geology, Geophysics, and Mineral Resources. To achieve this goal, the region needs 1.5 billion tons of reserves, but only 520 million tons of reserves have been discovered in Eastern Siberia so far, he said.


The petro-state threatens to put paid to the Socialist dream

For Hugo Chávez, the U.S. "empire" and the "consumerist values" are the two greatest enemies of his attempt to guide masses to the paradise of the 21st century Socialism. But the Venezuelan petro-state, fueled by record oil prices, has become the big threat.


Reaping benefits, paying the price for higher fuel costs

A few years back, then-Oklahoma City Mayor Kirk Humphreys was trying to gauge whether the public might support creation of a light rail system. He quizzed friends, wanting to know at what point they might consider abandoning their vehicles and flocking to public transportation.

The crowd listening to Humphreys laughed as he quoted one friend who responded he would only consider such a switch if gasoline hit $4 a gallon.

In the pre-Sept. 11, 2001, world, such a price seemed inconceivable to Humphreys' audience.


Thailand: Producers promise to step up NGV supply

The demand for natural gas vehicles (NGVs) in Thailand is expected to rise in response to rising oil prices, and in anticipation some fuel refiners have already started to up their production output to cope with the coming demand.


Zim faces energy crisis

"Because of electricity shortages we lose everything," said John Robertson, an independent Harare-based economist.

"Production time is lost as well as export revenue. We are now importing almost everything."


Speculators aid uranium price

THE price of uranium has risen for three consecutive weeks as speculators rekindled their interest in the raw material in nuclear reactor fuel.

The metallic element rose $US4, or 5 per cent, to $US84 a pound, said TradeTech LLC, a Denver-based publisher of price assessments. The equivalent of at least 350,000 pounds were sold in just two transactions, the company said on Friday in a weekly report.


Peak Moment: City Repair - Permaculture for Urban Spaces (podcast and streaming video)

What happens when citizens apply permaculture principles to a city grid? They create friendly places within the grid that invite people to come together. Mark Lakeman, co-founder of Portland, Oregon's City Repair Project describes these "creative intervention" projects as placemaking at its best. People learn to work together, build trust and have fun. The results, from painted intersections to cob benches and other organic structures, invite people "to inhabit the planet on our own terms" rather than the grid-locked culture imposed by the city.


If we all Tread lightly we can make a difference

Today, the Guardian launches its Tread lightly online project. It is an attempt to counter the defeatist attitude about tackling rising carbon emissions, by establishing an online meeting place for the community of people who are keen to be part of the solution, but who still seek motivation. By bringing readers together and encouraging them to make lifestyle changes, the hope is to show that individuals acting collectively can achieve impressive results. These changes range from the simple - washing clothes at 30C (86F), taking the bus instead of driving, - to the more imaginative, such as coordinating a "walking crocodile" for the trip to school.


Israel: Solar power unto the nations

Luz, which developed technologies to harness solar energy, went bankrupt 16 years ago. Founder Arnold Goldman is back with Luz II. "Globes" talked to the man who went into cleantech before it became a buzzword.


On an Upstate Wind Turbine Project, Opinions as Varied as the Weather

As we stumble toward what’s supposed to be a greener future, almost everyone, in the abstract, is for wind energy, surely as green, safe and abundant an energy source as there is. But, as residents of Long Island saw last summer in a proposal for wind turbines off Jones Beach that was quickly deep-sixed, it’s often not so simple at all.

So on the road from Grand Gorge to Stamford you see the yard signs popping up in front of barns and houses — “Yes to Clean Energy” on some, “No Industrial Wind Turbines” or “Save Our Mountains” on others.


Brockton mayor comes out in opposition to power plant

The plant would be on a 13-acre site at the Oak Hill Way Industrial Park. The proposed 101,200-square-foot facility would be 130 feet tall, with a stack reaching 250 feet.

It would generate 350 megawatts, enough to power 230,000 households, and would be fueled by natural gas. It would also use diesel fuel at times when there's a shortage of natural gas.


Boom in China's coal industry draws increasing interest from American investors and business

As China's appetite for coal is booming, American investors and businesses are cashing in.

American pension and mutual fund money is being invested in the Chinese coal industry, which is lucrative but has a poor record for pollution and worker safety.


Less Arctic ice means higher risks, experts warn

The International Ice Charting Working Group predicts more marine transportation in the Arctic as sea ice continues to diminish and warns of "significant hazards to navigation," according to a statement released yesterday.


Censoring science

Let's set aside for a moment the implausible notion that White House political appointees are better informed about the science in reports by the IPCC — the U.N.-chartered scientific group that shares this year's Nobel Peace Prize with Al Gore — than Dr. Gerberding and her staff are.

The fact is that for well over a decade, the IPCC has been sounding the alarm on climate change, and the Bush administration has ignored, downplayed and denied its conclusions.


Credibility gap

From polar bears to public health, government scientists' views keep running into political Wite-Out at the White House.

The latest example in a stunning array of them came last week when the Associated Press reported that the White House made significant edits in testimony about the impact of climate change on public health. Deleted sections, which the AP said covered more than half of the original text, included a list of specifics in which "climate change is likely to have a significant impact on health."


Human-generated ozone will damage crops, according to MIT study

What is the net effect of the three environmental changes? Without emissions restrictions, yields from forests and pastures decline slightly or even increase because of the climate and carbon dioxide effects. But crop yields fall by nearly 40 percent worldwide.


Arctic oil, gas offer challenge, potential

I've been fascinated with the notion of huge undiscovered oil and gas resources in the world's Arctic regions that may become assessable as the polar ice pack shrinks. This is important for those of us who worry about "peak oil," the theory that the world will soon reach the peak of oil that can be produced.

Next year we'll get the first educated guess of the potential resource of the Arctic when the U.S. Geological Survey completes its Circum-Arctic Resources Appraisal, the first comprehensive effort to predict the amount of oil and gas that might be recovered from polar regions of the globe, and which will be available to the public.


Alberta’s Oil Royalty Increase Is Protested

Both the oil industry and environmental groups were united, at least in disagreement, on Friday by the province of Alberta’s decision to raise oil and gas royalty charges.


Philippine-Chinese venture plans major ethanol plant

A Filipino oil company and its Chinese partner are planning a 30-million-dollar ethanol plant in the southern Philippines to cash in on an expected biofuel boom, a company official said Sunday.


China Vows to Clean Up Polluted Lake

China will spend more than $14 billion to clean up a famed lake inundated by so much pollution this year that it became a symbol of the country’s lax environmental regulation against polluting industries.


Climate controversy heats up Australian election

Australian Prime Minister John Howard was defiant Sunday in the face of reports his environment minister urged him to reverse government policy and sign the Kyoto Protocol ahead of upcoming polls.

The prime minister is battling for his political life in the November 24 election against a Labor Party leader who has vowed to immediately sign onto the UN-backed Kyoto process if he wins.


Sustainable Living: Heat up climate-change legislation

Since this great outpouring of grass-roots support for climate change legislation, virtually nothing has happened in Congress. Meanwhile, the polar ice is thinning, greenhouse gases are getting thicker and the U.S. economy is stagnant. Rather than hope and wait for our elected officials to do the right thing, Step It Up is getting proactive. Members have called for another National Day of Climate Action to be held on Saturday.


Warming Revives Flora and Fauna in Greenland

But now that the climate is warming, it is not just old trees that are growing. A Greenlandic supermarket is stocking locally grown cauliflower, broccoli and cabbage this year for the first time. Eight sheep farmers are growing potatoes commercially. Five more are experimenting with vegetables. And Kenneth Hoeg, the region’s chief agriculture adviser, says he does not see why southern Greenland cannot eventually be full of vegetable farms and viable forests.

I am collecting material to educate the local community and organizations about Peak Oil. I have put together a pretty good collection and am preparing a Power Point presentation.

I know that much of this has already been put together by others for their local situations.

If anyone is aware of good presentations on this topic, please post the link(s). I'm sure this would be useful to others also.

Thanks in advance.

Piccolo
Checkout this site. I have not gone through it recently to see if it has been updated.
Don
http://www.peakoilandhumanity.com/initial_page_english.htm

I wish we could afford the life we are living.

Don, thanks for the link.

Here are some other good collections of ppt's or pdf's I've run across:

Powerswitch.org

Matt Simmons' presentations

Oil Depletion Analysis Center Click on Assessments.

ASPO 2006 presentations

Without broader awareness there will be no collective, informed thoughts on the matter. Without informed thoughts, any actions taken before and during a crisis will likely make problems worse. Without informed thoughts and effective actions, there will be no hope. So making presentations on the implications of the peaking of oil and climate change are an excellent idea.

And speaking of excellent ideas, multi-threading a complementary or related discussion through a presentation is yet another excellent idea.

But a truly astounding idea is if those people who were making presentations would share specific experiences about:
* the actual presentation
* what generated discussion
* what the reactions were to specific questions and answers

Reactions are a key. Because without the shared understanding of the reactions, from hostility to blank stares to laughter, the amount each of us can learn individually is so very limited.

Comedians use a multi-threading technique to great effect to generate attention, interest, and laughter, and presenters can similarly use tangents, sidebars, and seemingly-unrelated stories, which are interjected into the middle of a presentation. The changing of topics in conversation or presentation tends to grab peoples' attentions, disrupt a previous train of thought, and put them off guard.

But if you really want to get discussions moving, there's an excellent discussion "hook" technique that I learned while hiking the Inca Trail to Machu Picchu. It's virtually guaranteed to spark interest.

In this gathering and exchanging of knowledge, the goal would be to continually improve the quality and impact of presentations.

I'm working on such a presentation right now, directed at local small businesses in my county. I'm calling it the "County Small Business Economic Threat Assessment". Though the title might be polarizing and harsh, I think that's what I want to do, polarize, so that I can align with the people who will address these problems as threats, instead of wishing for or expecting that someone else will take care of it.

And that's another thing you have to expect with presentations, or the delivery of any kind of broadcast message: you will not reach everyone.

I expect there are a lot of other people working on presentations alone, without any organized way of exchanging, borrowing, and learning from the experiences of other presenters.

Maybe it will be a productive undertaking to share our presentation experiences, using and developing the technology while we have access to its supporting infrastructure, with the goal of improving the delivery and effectiveness of our efforts.

Maybe it is useful to start listing some presentation and discussion resources right here:
How to Win an Argument - refined from Dale Carnegie's How to Win Friends, Etc. #12, though, is wrong. You need to be emotive, but not let your emotions run wild so that they can be used against you.
How to Win an Argument by humorist Dave Barry
Periodic Table of Visualization Methods

Or perhaps, since it's not like anything important is at stake, we shouldn't upset our own individual apple carts by changing our ways of addressing these problems, and just wish for the outcomes we hope for?

Best hopes that people understand that "hope" is only a "wish" if not accompanied by both thoughts and actions ...

Without broader awareness there will be no collective, informed thoughts on the matter.

Yeah, but there is so much misinformation out there. People think they are informed, but in many cases the opinions are based upon faulty assumptions that in many cases are pushed out there by people who have an agenda.

Identifying the problem of dis- and mis-information is enough to get started attacking the problem.

And you have identified the problem succinctly:
* opinions frequently based on faulty assumptions
* assumptions frequently pushed by agendas

Our problem arises when we, ourselves, look for a quick fix, an easy solution to this situation.

The solution to misinformation is found in being better informed than the other people, to be able to challenge their assumptions in a non-threatening way, to be able to identify agendas, and be able to effectively lead them out of their misinformed position.

This is no easy task.

So, no. No one person can be expected to keep on top of everything, the information infrastructure, the presentation parameters, the conversational cues. So maybe there's a place for an open-source sustainability and energy reference database, a Codex Petroleus for discussion and presentation, from which we all could borrow, to which we could all contribute.

I think using Humor throughout is a great idea. I used to do presentations in groups of 10 all the way to packed rooms with 300+. Did class room education and really understand the multi-thread approach.

Having analogies for different attendees in your presentation is key. One person is into NASCAR another is into Club Med. What things will be different for those people (and everyone in between).

I used to sell Kirby vacuums door to door for 4 years back when I was first starting out. Many many techniques learned.

For example, this technique Feel, Felt, Found , Can be used to help in the persuasion end.

It goes like this.

Having gotten an objection to something you presented, this is how you would counter and continue.

"I know how you feel Bob, You FEEL.... (hit a couple of points of his objection) and I wnat you to know that I FELT the same way,... (give examples of you had problems with that aspect when you first found out), But then I FOUND that.... (explain it in a new way includes his objection)

Feel, Felt Found.

I know how you Feel,
I felt the same way,
But I Found....

This method gets you on THEIR side (I felt the same way, I'm with you).

It would be great if there was a OPEN SOURCE area that everyone could donate Great Graphs, Facts, Figures etc so presentations could be created quickly with up to date info.

Instead of hunting the web for articles, graphs you might have seen somewhere...

How about it Prof. Goose? Can we have an area to post OPEN SOURCE Peak Oil info??

John Carr

John,
Some great suggestions here. Thanks. I'll need to practice that some.

I'd love to get a video of you doing your Peak Oil thing - does anything like that exist? (Youtube for example.)

Regarding the web site idea, I think there is definitely a place for it. I could probably set up something like that independently, but it would be better if it could be done under the umbrella of TOD.

Great suggestions with the feel, felt, found.

Open source peak oil information, brilliant. Many hands make light work. With many eyes, all bugs are shallow.

But if you really want to get discussions moving, there's an excellent discussion "hook" technique that I learned while hiking the Inca Trail to Machu Picchu. It's virtually guaranteed to spark interest.

Okay, you've sparked my interest. Is the "hook" telling folks about an excellent (fill in the blank) that you learned while hiking the Inca Trail to Machu Picchu?

The "hook" is starting an interesting story, relevant to the listener, that you don't finish telling. You return to your original story in the conversation, or go off on another tangent, "forgetting" about the hook story.

Thus getting them to ask, "so what happened on the Inca Trail"?

Though using an experience from your own life is bound to be more realistic and effective.

Charlie and I are standing at the top of a hill overlooking Machu Picchu. The fourth day of the hike, and we've hiked an hour that morning to get to the top, and are awed by the view. "Breathtaking," I mutter. "Yeah," he replies, and begins to point at the ruins. "But soon there'll be ... " He trails off for a moment, and starts walking toward the site. I start after him, but he won't finish the sentence and changes the subject.

An hour later, two buses of tourists arrive and the site is swarmed. "Too many people", he says, pointing again, finally finishing his sentence.

I had to wait for it and ask for it, and when I got it, there was a much bigger impact.

::rubs eyes:: Am I still dreaming or did a couple of comments just get nuked?

mine did

I deleted one comment. The reason I deleted it was that it looked like spam to me. (New poster, and the only comment he ever posted was a plug for a specific product, complete with link to commercial web site.)

We've decided to be a little more strict about commercial posts. We're getting a lot more traffic these days, which makes us more attractive to spammers. It hasn't been too bad yet, but it's something we want to nip in the bud.

I'm sorry for the post on the product I didn't mean it as a spam.There have been several post that I've read here about old homes not having the insulation needed.I've used this product and cooling an extra 450 sq ft of our house for $100 less per month and I'm not even done coating the rest of the house.Being a painter there are only two product that I know of on the market and you can do your own digging by insulating paint search this works on the K-value.Once again I apologize I didn't mean it as spam.

I would like to see a debate (with links) on insulating paint. I have toyed with the concept several times but never used it.

Interior as well as exterior paints.

Best Hopes,

Alan

Well Alan from thermodynamics:

Paint is a 1 dimensional spplication, only having thickness. (neglect corner effects, and thermal diffusion down the body)

q/time = thermal diffusivity *applied area* driving force/thickness

As you know, when thickness gets small, (like paint) the q/time increases substantially. In class we never ever ever ever even consider surface nodes for conduction, only convection.

In summary, paint is soo thin that only an application of a miracle material with very very high k value would even have a noticeable effect compared to what the wall is constructed of.

If you want to talk about radiation reflecting paint to prevent absorption of incident solar radiation thats different and can be incorporated into the overall system solution.

I have seen coatings several mm thick, with good effects (hold coated end of metal strip, apply propane torch to other end an inch away).

My guess is that R-1 is possible with a 3.5 mm thick coating. A good way to shelter thermal mass from living space.

Alan

As you know, when thickness gets small, (like paint) the q/time increases substantially. In class we never ever ever ever even consider surface nodes for conduction, only convection.

Is the recent Nobel Prize for "the mysteries of surface chemistry", as Jon Stewart put it, at all relevant here?

In your original post I think you mentioned that you've installed a new heat pump. The savings are probably coming from that, or have you somehow ruled that out of your number there?

We installed a new 17 seer from a 10 seer unit.Granted alot comes from that, but our house was built in 1927 still has all lath and plaster I coated the hottest room in the house upstairs bedrm 10x27 with open attic areas on side walls.We never cooled the two rooms upstairs unless company was coming.After coating and you could not tell the difference between down stair and up (extra 450sq ft)This coating uses Nanotech it not the ceramic powder.Most under side of roof decking coated got on ave 50 degree drop.I coated a 6x12 south facing porch roof since it's a clear coat still have the aesthetics but keep the heat out I just need a good hail storm to see how it holds up.

I would like the link since Google for Nanotech lead to confusion (I did find that Mercedes Benz started using clear ceramic paint as an overcoat on their higher end models in 2004).

Thanks,

Alan

I think this was it.

You think correctly.

"new 17 seer from a 10 seer unit"

From what I understand, that's a pretty big jump and it should be 1.7 times as efficient as efficient, more if your old unit had lost efficiency by age. What was the percentage drop in your bill after installation? It's really a shame you did so many things at once and weren't able to measure the effects individually.

"I coated a 6x12 south facing porch roof since it's a clear coat still have the aesthetics but keep the heat out I just need a good hail storm to see how it holds up."

You painted the outside? Would that not let the light in to heat the surface below and then trap the heat beneath?

I'm not trying to hound you or anything, just rather curious. I can think of a good way of testing this stuff though, and that would be to get Kill-a-Watt meter and your fridge, get a good baseline of energy usage (and track room temp), paint your fridge with the stuff and then get an average of after-painted energy usage and see if its statistically significant.

Doing so many things at once was also a consideration but it just happened that way.Our summer bills had ave. between 180 to 240 it dropped to 95-123 the highest.But that is with an added 450 sq ft at 74 degrees.On the 6x12 roof during high sunlight there is a higher sheen which I'm guessing is reflecting sunlight at dusk it reduces to almost nothing.I'm looking for extended roof life it made the shingle almost like a plastic bucket.The company is testing has made app for patent on sheetrock mud and sheetrock plus other building materials.It has a class A fire rating.Around the end of the yr they have said an epoxy will be on the market there is your frig test.Or better yet in the plastc liner of the frig.

I reviewed the performance of a "nanotech" thermal coating used for an industrial application. While it worked well at reducing radiant heat losses (and would also probably work well at reducing radiant heat gains), it's actual conductive R-value was vastly worse than advertised. Had to resort back to good-old foam. Buyers beware.

I would intuitively infer that there is a fairly low limit as to how insulative (in conductive heat loss) a thin film could be. All the insulative materials I'm aware of achieve their insulative value usually with a combination of dead air (or inert gas or vacuum) space and volume. A thin film simply does not have the volume to be able to do this. If I'm wrong, I'd like to see experimental or real world data to this effect.

refer to my upward post. The thermal flux is a function of temperature gradient, thickness, and area. An infinitely thin coating would have an infinitely high thermal flux (basically it would be ignored in the final solution).

You are correct that dead space is important, but prevention of the 3 methods of heat transfer at an economical rate is more so. Conductive, convective, and radiative. Fractal gels are wonderful at this.

At the site listed by vaporlock below
http://www.industrial-nanotech.com/howitworks.htm
they list 'Nansulate' at R-10-13 per inch. Allowing for even the high side of R-13, this would give but a small fraction of an R for a layer of paint. I would bet that a 1" thick coating of the stuff would be way prohibitively expensive. I remain vastly unimpressed.

Here is the specs on the paint and how it works.http://www.industrial-nanotech.com/howitworks.htm

Sorry if I misread your post. I wouldn't have deleted it if you had more of a posting history here. If you're really interested in peak oil, stick around. :)

No problem I understand your consern I'm really interested and you'd probably have to chase me off with a big stick.Knowledge is power and we're going to need all the power we can get.

I thought it may have been spam too when I first saw it, but I decided to follow the link anyway.

Here's a forum, they talk about R-value at the bottom: http://www.nanalyze.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1249&whichpage=2

Something called the "Knudsen effect" gets mentioned, which is interesting. There's certainly not a lot of information on it, and what there is seems to be a bit of black magic. I'm highly skeptical, though intrigued.

Edit:
On that forum I have a link to there, someone's posted what looks like a press release:

Brazilian Oil and Gas Giant Requests Specifications for Industrial Nanotech's Nansulate Coating for Pipeline Project

TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 26, 2006 8:30 AM
- PrimeZone

NAPLES, Fla., Sept. 26, 2006, Sep 26, 2006 (PRIMEZONE via COMTEX) -- Industrial Nanotech (Pink Sheets:INTK), a company that specializes in nanotechnology innovation and product development, today announced that Brazilian Oil and Gas giant, Petrobras, has formerly requested specifications for an application of the Company's thermally insulating and corrosion resistant coating, Nansulate, for a pipeline project consisting of one hundred and five miles of eighteen inch diameter pipe to be constructed in Brazil.

There's more but you can go to the link.

I am also very interested in the insulating or reflective paints that are on the market. I understand they were developed by NASA and would have a major impact on household energy use, especially AC. Vacuum ceramic additives are the key.

Any experiences out there?