Hubbert Linearization Analysis of the Top Three Net Oil Exporters

[ED: This is a guest post by westexas...]

Let's assume that we have a world where all oil production is from one country--Export Land--that produces 20 mbpd, consumes 10 mbpd, and exports 10 mbpd to oil consuming countries around the world.

Export Land hits the 50% of Qt (URR) point, and over a five year period production drops by 25%.   Over the same time period, Export Land's consumption increases by 20% to 12 mbpd.  This causes Export Land's net exports over the five year period to fall from 10 mbpd to 3 mbpd, a decrease of 70%--resulting from a combination of increasing domestic consumption in Export Land and a 25% drop in production.

Let's look at real world production with our hypothetical Export Land as a model.

Based on the EIA's list of top net oil exporters, those exporting at least one mbpd or more, the top three net oil exporters in 2004 were Saudi Arabia (8.73 mbpd), Russia (6.67 mbpd) and Norway (2.91 mbpd), a total of 18.31 mbpd.  This is slightly less than half of the total net oil exports from the top exporters (38.31 mbpd).   I suspect that total world net oil exports are probably on the order of 42 mbpd or less.

Stuart's original Hubbert Linearizaton analyses for Saudi Arabia and Norway indicate that Saudi Arabia is 55% depleted, Russia is 88% depleted and Norway is 67% depleted (thanks Khebab).

I believe that Saudi Arabia is on the verge of a long term decline in production.   Texas, the former swing producer, with a similar P/Q intercept, showed a 29% drop in production over a 10 year period after its 1972 peak.

Russia peaked at a broad plateau around 53% of Qt, and production is down about 25% from its peak.   Although production has been increasing recently, in all likelihood this was just compensation for the dramatic drop in the Nineties, which was probably due to both natural depletion and political problems after the Soviet Union collapsed.  If this assessment is correct, Russia is on verge of a dramatic collapse in production, almost certainly in the double digit percentage per year range.

Norway peaked at 55% of Qt, and has been following the predicted downward slope exactly as predicted.

As predicted by Hubbert Linearization, two of the three top net oil exporters are producing below their peak production level.   The third country, Saudi Arabia, is probably on the verge of a permanent and irreversible decline.   Both Russia and Saudi Arabia are probably going to show significant increases in consumption going forward.  It would seem from this case that these factors could interact this year produce to an unprecedented--and probably permanent--net oil export crisis.

Very interesting. I am suprised at the data for Russia, which definitely looks like we're in for trouble. Add to this the fact that Iran will be refered to the security council Thursday, and the 'perfect storm' seems on the horizon. Does anyone else think the Saudi's are already just past peak and the information just hasn't come out?
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Yes, we (both Stuart and I) are trying to (and are pretty skeptical of) figure out the Russia case...ergo, if anyone has some data to debunk the Russia case, we welcome it.  I did a cursory search over the last couple of days and couldn't find anything, hence the decision to go ahead and put this up.  If someone in this braintrust can't tear it apart...
Well, for what its worth...

The most trustworthy source I have found for Russia is Ray Leonard, former VP Exploration and New Ventures for Yukos. He is now Sr. Vice President for MOL Plc. He is a regular ASPO attendee. In this abstract of the text of his 2002 Uppsala presentation RUSSIAN OIL AND GAS: A REALISTIC ASSESSMENT, he states

Russian Reserves: In the Soviet Union (and now Russia) after discovery and delineation, each oilfield was analyzed by the State Reserves Committee to calculate geological and recoverable reserves. The Categories A, B and C1 represented proven reserves. This was based on a proposed and approved development plan. The plan was based on existing technology, but with no economic "filter." In recent years, Russian oil firms offering market shares have used internationally recognized auditing firms to estimate their reserves. In the case of the four largest oil firms, the audited amount averaged about 80% of the State Reserves Committee approved number. Including Russian majors, independents, condensate from Gasprom, state reserves and reserves of foreign companies operating in Russia, proven reserves are 100-110 billion barrels, or 80-90 billion if the 80% factor is taken into account. International convention usually takes a 50% reduction factor in counting probable (C2) reserves. Therefore, the Russian total of 30-40 Billion probable would add an additional 10-15 billion. More detailed calculations are being made to refine the number, but 90-105 billion barrels is a reasonable estimate of Russian reserves
This conclusion is repeated in a presentation Russian Oil And Gas Reserves (ppt).

He also presented in 2003 (ASPO newsletter #164) at the Paris Second International Workshop on Oil Depletion giving a talk entitled Can Russia make up the Difference and for how long?". I can't find the full text.

He also participated in the 2005 Lisbon meeting in another talk entitled The Reality of Russia (ppt). From Slide 3

Two sets of calculations: Russian C1(proven) accurately measures reserves without economic filter while SPE and SEC measure economically recoverable reserves and actual developed reserves

C1 Russian reserves are 119 billion barrels

As development of past five years has taken place, gap between SPE and SEC numbers and C1 is narrowing

Proven reserves are concentrated in West Siberia with about 70% in difficult to produce reservoirs

So, he's an expert on Russia and an ASPO regular. I think some information you may be seeking on Russia can be found in these sources.

As far as the Russia continental shelf/Artic goes (eg. the Kara, Barents Seas) go, I have a pending post on the shelf that I've been meaning to finish. I think I'll get right on it.

Hope this helps.

However, the recent trends have shown that major oil companies (e.g. Shell) and major producers (e.g, Kuwait) have been overestimating their reserves.  

Most recently, as Matt Simmons pointed out, all of the majors were dead wrong regarding the North Sea.  Hubbert Linearization was dead on right regarding the North Sea.  

Except for some "noise" around the collapse of the Soviet Union, Russia has been following the "glidepath" down.  Why should we not expect it to continue?  However, the key point that a lot of people seem to be evading is that Russia--exactly as predicted by the model--peaked in a broad plateau centered on about 53% of Qt.  

Let me repeat.  Hubbert Linearization accurately picked the peak of Russian oil production.

The key challenge is the following.  Name me one region/country with decades of serious production (at 2 mbpd or so or more), with a Qt of at least 50 Gb that has shown increasing production beyond 55% of Qt.  

Personally, I think Ray Leonard is probably a good source. I doubt this "dramatic collapse" will happen in the next five years or so. I see nothing in his ASPO presentations that indicate such radical declines soon. IMHO, it will depend on their internal politics more than on how much recoverable oil they have. Sakhalin looks pretty good for the time being and although West Siberia is looking more and more challenging to produce, EOR should allow production there to stay at least flat in the shorter term with a highly probable steep drop-off after 2010 or so. 70% of their proven reserves are there. But they have other significant oil provinces as well. If that's the timeframe for your collapse assumption, then we agree about it.

Hubbert linearizations are a good thing but in Russia we have the infamous "double peak" because of what happened in the 1990's. In the (P/Q)/Q calculation, where are we getting reliable information about cumulative production to date? The Soviets were pretty secretive about their production history. What's our data source?

Dave,

Khebab addresses the data issue down the way.

The North Sea is a far more compact province than Russia that should have been far easier model.  According to Matt Simmons, the best engineers in the world at all the major oil companies working the North Sea thought that it wouldn't peak until 2010.  

The simple Hubbert Linearization method was far more accurate.  North Sea production is down almost 25% from its 1999 peak (using the crude + condensate number).  I assume that you would concur that this verges on a collapse--one that the best engineers in the world missed.  

If the engineers can be that wrong about a province that--compared to Russia--is a piece of cake, don't you think that they might be wrong about Russia too?  In my opinion, the "double peak" was simply cumulative production catching up to where it should have been at this point in time.  

Backward induction
Backward induction is a technique to solve a game of perfect information. It first consid-
ers the moves that are the last in the game, and determines the best move for the player
in each case. Then, taking these as given future actions, it proceeds backwards in time,
again determining the best move for the respective player, until the beginning of the game

How much does it take to push people away from their natural strategies? 

I have a suggestion for the geologists and petroleum engineers. Figure out what the heck your measurements and estimates mean, and then perfect the formula to eliminate the magical guess work. The more I look at it, the more I seriously think that no one has figured out how to do estimates of oil reservoir volume correctly
It almost sounds as if no one wants to admit that a parabolic growth law has any kind of importance.

And FSU Oil Shock Model here

However, if you discount OPEC reserves by 50%, it becomes clear that we are WELL past that half-way point. So production should have already begun to decline. This suggests that, as widely feared, only the use of water injection and water flood tecniques to keep reservoir pressure artificially high have kept production rates up for the past several years. The problem with this is that when a field who's production rate has been artificially sustained beyond the half-way point finally does begin to decline, its rate of decline tends to be very, very high. 10-18% has been suggested (by Simmons and others) as the decline rate for fields that have been pressed to the limits with injection technologies. This is critical, because while Peak Oil may be a quite manageable problem at 2% depletion, 10%+ depletion means that world production will fall by half in less than 7 years. That would be absolutely catastrophic. No wonder this story isn't available on CNN.

Mobjectivist has the Parabolic Growth Law and Fractional Yearly "Reserve Growth #'s and Jeff Vaill has the Implications.

Game Theory states that we now must assume the worst.  Catastrophic oil depletion this year.

Thank you mcgowanjm for bringing this up. I've been trying for three days, but maybe some numbers will get people involved.

We've used 1000 Gb. If we have past 50% some time ago, that means we could be well into the 60s.

1000 /.60 = 1,666.67

1000 /.65 = 1,538.46

1000 /.70 = 1,428.57143

Overall, if we have used 60% of URR, the average decline rate will be much higher than if we were at 50%.

Which is why I asked if most countries use techonology that has delayed their peak...

Also, how much will the countries that are ramping up production offset the decline rate?

I should have said, "will get more people involved"
mcgowanjm, thanks for the post.  

I certainly wouldn't compare myself to Hubbert, but I have gotten a small taste of what it must have been like for him to challenge conventional wisdom,

I was at an oil industry meeting last year where a geologist employed by the State of Texas gave a talk debunking Hubbert.  Of course I challenged him on it during the Q&A.  In response to one my points, he said "Texas may not be able to equal its peak production, but we can certainly get close with better use of technology."  

In 33 years, Texas has never shown year over year increases in production, and we are down close to 75% from our peak.  It shows how deep the denial is that an allegedly competent scientist can ignore data in front of his face and talk about production increases.  Our problem is fields like the East Texas Field, which is now producing 1.2 mbpd of water, with a 1% oil cut.  How does high tech help you revive a field that has watered out?

Westtexas,

I saw the Enron documentary yesterday.  It's a Ten
by the way.  See it if you can.

Anyway the movie flashes the book Selfish Genes as a book Skilling runs his life by.

From the book or like minded authors-

We humans are blissfully unaware that we are driven to behave in ways that maximize inclusive fitness. Because of the advantages of unawareness of our own deceptive tactics and of our suspicion, I suggest that innate tendencies made us "embarrassingly stupid" as far as conscious awareness of these facts is concerned.

Evolutionary theory predicts the inherent selfishness of the individual. Therefore, we would not expect communication to develop as a means of informing others of the truth, if such truth gives the recipient an advantage at the expense of the sender. Cronk (1991) suggests to "follow the example of animal behavior studies in seeing communication more as a means to manipulate others than as a means to inform them". In other words, most communication serves for the purpose of social influence, defined as "change in one person's beliefs, attitudes, behavior, or emotions brought about by some other person or persons" (Raven, 1983, p. 8).

This demonstrates that deceit as an influence strategy is neither new nor a human invention. Second, it is likely that humans employ strategies as low as level two (body language signals of strength or submission) or maybe even level one (immature and baby-like facial features in an adult).

In summary, we should expect a good strategists to strive to maintain an image of being a truthful person. He or she should be prepared to deceive whenever it confers a sizable advantage versus a much smaller risk.

It's now obvious that the powers that be got away with the Enron model.  Lay and Skilling are big, but they ain't
Chase Morgan or CSFB.

The US has absolutely no intention of slowing "growth"
(the same def as Enron's-whatever we say it is).

We will continue until stopped.  By PO, Climate Change,  or nuking Iran.

Excellent post!  If we are going to get this data out to the point where something is done about it, we will have to address the social psychological aspects of it.  The "Abundant Oil" people know this and are doing it right now.

For example: I recently listened to a debate between a Peak Oiler and an Abundant Oiler from an Art Bell radio show from about a month ago.  My wife said that she thought the Abundant Oiler won the debate, and I have to say that most unknowledgeable people would probably feel the same.  The Abundant Oiler was lying up a storm, but it was obvious that he was used to this and he had practiced staying calm and beating his message to death.  Also, his message induced a very warm, feel-good emotional state of long-term economic stability.

The Peak Oiler had the real data, but I could see how he could easily confuse the average non-technical person.  Also, his voice got very shrill as he slowly freaked out at how many lies the Abundant Oiler was making.  The tone of his voice and his message induced a state of confusion, insecurity, and irritation.

It was an interesting case of how easily a person ruthless enough to lie like a dog, can beat an honest technical person for the hearts of the average person.  In my Neuro Linguistic Programming classes, they used to say that people aren't swayed by reasons, but by their emotional state.

On the other hand, maybe this is a lost cause, and we destined for the hard landing later, instead of the softer landing now.  But, I would like to hope that we could do something...like convincing the average person of the reality of PO.

Many thanks for your thoughts on this, westexas, mcgowanjm, zach. I need to preface my comments by saying: I expect decline rates to be significantly higher for many fields in future due to EOR use, I think that many reserves are a bit overstated, I think things are going to get worse and faster than many here seem to think. However...

I can believe that some large fields in mid east, like Ghawar, may reach perhaps 70% URR / OOIP so there could be more recoverable oil than you expect.

Though the water cut from Ghawar is about 35% now its rate of increase has been slow, steady and seemingly well managed, it was over 20% 25 years ago.

Russia is just weird, I don't think any relatively simple model will work for it. There could be anything from 50 to 100 billion barrels of URR remaining (80% probability range).

One thing we really need to know more about is how EOR has impacted production rates and decline rates for large fields. I think this will be absolutely critical in attempting to project forward, I too expect some seriously nasty decline rates.

More philosophically, I almost never lie, often manage to go several years without telling even the smallest white lie, one lie a year is a bad record for me. When I do choose to lie it usually causes me considerable trauma both before and after, I almost never lie by mistake since being untrue is now so alien to me. Yet I am very aware of people around me lying continuously, often without being aware they are doing so. Is it me that is sick or them?

I never liked "The Selfish Gene" book or thesis, it is well argued but doesn't ring true. I generally consider the 'common good' above personal benefit, if I could gain 15 at the cost of 10 each losing 2 then I would not do it. But I am very rarely ripped off and can be a very good bargainer and negotiator when needed. Maybe I am a communist who believes in personal freedom, lol.

Come on, westexas, you are claiming that Russia has ultimately recoverable reserves of only 18 Gb, according to your chart? Yet Dave's expert, who is working with ASPO and sounds very credible, says it has proven reserves of over 80 Gb, with considerably more probable reserves. These figures don't add up.

Besides, it's clear at a glance that the Hubbert linearization is no good for Russia:

Production has moved well above the logistic fit and continues to climb. If I fit a line to this last portion I get that Russia has, let's see... looks like an infinite quantity of oil to me. Boy, you sure can learn a lot by fitting lines to charts, can't you?

As Prof. Goose said, the curve fitting for Russia is a nasty fit and a mixture of logistic curves should be used instead.
I am just an amateur at all this oil production analysis, of course - but I find it very difficult to believe that Russia could still be producing on a daily basis at the levels that it is while being as depleted as westexas has been saying it is.  Isn't some explanation of this in order as part of any process of verifying westexas's pessimism?
As I pointed down the way, according to the EIA (based on total liquids), if Russia and the US switched consumption levels, the US would be the second largest net exporter in the world.   If we would not consider the US to be a reliable future source of exports, why do we consider Russia to be a reliable source?

Until the collapse of the Soviet Union, the Russian P/Q versus Q plot was following a perfect linear progression.   The recent increase in production was just compensation for the post-1989 decline below the "glidepath" down toward what is effectively zero annual production.

As I pointed out in regard to Norway, Russia peaked in the same range as other countries/regions, e.g., Lower 48 (48%), Texas (52%) and the North Sea (52%).   Therefore, why should we not expect Russia to continue the linear progression?

What are the exact comparative numbers between Russia and the US, westexas?  For Qt, peak production, current daily production, and current internal consumption?

I don't mean to be a contrarian for obnoxiousness' sake; I'm just trying to get some kind of quantitative handle on the fundamental similarity in depletion advance between the two that you are arguing for.

This EIA website has most of the data you a looking for:

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/topworldtables1_2.html

I think that the best estimate for US Qt is about 225 Gb, for Russia about 160 Gb.  

This further reinforces my view that ultimately the world oil market will breakdown. Oil will not be "fungible" as we now know it. Export countries will seek to sign favorable contracts with their local political/security/economic blocs. Russia with the former USSR and EU. Norway with the EU. Venezuela with Brazil/Carib or US depending on Hugo Chavez's fate. Canada and Mexico with the USA.

That leaves the mid east with a good hand to play. I could see China, Japan, US and EU all being played off one another in a high stakes game of "who gets my exports?"

I suspect that any exporter who's in production decline is going to seriously consider keeping most of their oil for themselves.  It's just too useful in growing an economy.
OTOH...do you really want to grow your economy with a fast-depleting resource?  To get your people accustomed to an oil-powered lifestyle, when it can't last?

I think Iran has the right idea.  Build nuclear power plants and use those, while selling the oil and gas.  Use your one-time gift of petroleum to build the infrastructure for the post-carbon age.

I think we're saying the same thing.  Instead of selling the oil I would use as much of it as possible to build and power my own factories to make nuclear plants or consumer goods or what have you, and sell what little remained.  I'd import as little as possible.
But it won't deplete so fast if you don't export it.
I don't think it's too wise to rely on nuclear power.  Currently the uranium mines in the world are not satisfying supply, with excess feedstock coming froming decommisioning nuclear weapons.  Perhaps Iran has enough unranium reserves to keep up with their own internal demand, but I am not familar with their geology.

The case may be that Iran uses its oil wealth to build reactors and then at a later date with will not have the fuel to run the reactor.

What you want here are breeders.
Exactly.  The technology still needs some work, but once oil starts getting scarce, breeder reactors are the obvious way to go.  You'll have to do a lot less mining that way.  

Unfortunately, breeder reactors are the ones we don't want countries like Iran to have.  

I don't think any country has managed to build a safe, reliable, cheap breeder reactor.
I'd go with fast neutron, gas cooled, convection circulated, thermoelectic effect power, no moving parts reactors.
Small physical size, small power size, low fabrication costs, very sparse fault tree, low research and development costs, very small radioactive byproduct production, not proliferent (the plutonium does not get recycled to "clean" it for fabrication because it is just remelted, not even clad), thermodynamically and neutronically efficient.
Low CO2 emissions from mining because you use all the uranium instead of just .73%.
But the low research and development cost is a killer. If you go to all the trouble of renting some congressment and senators, why bid for a small contract designing one of these instead of something complicated that will let you make some money?
That leaves the mid east with a good hand to play. I could see China, Japan, US and EU all being played off one another in a high stakes game of "who gets my exports?"

Well, assuming the Middle Eastern exporters want to get as much as possible for the oil they choose to sell, the place for them to go will be . . . the world oil market. For that matter, assuming that all exporters want to get as much as possible for the oil they choose to sell, the best place for them is also . . . the world oil market.

What if they want something money can't buy (at least on the open market).  Like, nuclear weapons.  Or a military alliance.
I think currency instabilities from commodity hyper-inflation combined with asset deflation will force some type of barter system to emerge. Oil for food, oil for weapons, oil for intellectual property...something like that. They may even try to create mini-empires of their own...
I think you are very right to believe that oil will become less fungible. This process is already well underway, China has made several significant contracts and arrangements over the last year or so. Exporters will consider other aspects of the trade besides price.

How this plays out and how far it eats into the fungibility of the oil market is likely to be very significant in the next few years, in both market and geopolitical effects. The US policy of 'free market or conquest' is likely to be a losing strategy in this environment.

My God, we're screwed.  You should have told us this a year ago when we had time to do something about it.  Wait a minute, you did.  Well, maybe bird flu or the rapture will happen.
I think in the Kuwaiti thread, you noted that doing the Hubbert linearization on the top 4 oil producers added together got dramatically different results from linearizing them separately and then adding the results. Is that also true of the top 3? What does that say about the reliability of this linearization technique?
I was thinking along the same lines. What if they all peak at different times, resulting in a plateau for a few years?
I read the post as saying that peak is now for all three.
Khebab did some combination Hubbert Linearization plots that came out with a number different from the individual plots.  I'm not sure why.  I would suspect an input error somewhere.  In any case, the two countries significantly past the 50% mark--Russia and Norway--are, as predicted, significantly below their respective peak production levels.  

So far, from what I have seen, no country/region with serious production over several decades, at serious levels of production (say two mbpd or more) and with a Qt of 50 Gb or more, has shown increasing production beyond the 55% of Qt mark.  We have seen declines and then increases, e.g. Russia, but the recent Russian production level is far below is mid-Eighties peak.

I didn't mention it in my post, but if you use the 2004 EIA numbers (http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/topworldtables1_2.html), if Russian and US consumption figures were switched, the US would be the second largest exporter in the world.   Would any of us be comfortable with the thought of relying on the US as the second largest exporter in the world?  Then why aren't we concerned about Russia?

I have been studying the Peak Oil issue since Deffeyes' first book came out, and this is the first time that I have managed to scare myself.

"Exporting oil is an act of treason" Heitor Manoel Pereira, president of AEPET in Brazil, January 06, 2006.

I believe we will be hearing a lot more statements like this in the near future.  Oil (and natural gas) is going to start losing its fungibility.  It is THE strategic resource.  Just ask Condi.

I have always been skeptical of the scenario presented in the intro where Export Land continues to feed its internal market as much as it wants, while cutting off exports. What this amounts to, at least in the case of Norway and Russia (SA has relatively little internal consumption in comparison), is that oil prices will be held down inside the country while they are exploding elsewhere. Norwegians will get their oil for ten bucks a barrel or something, while if you go across the border to Finland or Sweden suddenly its many times higher.

What evidence is there that this will happen? Has this happened in Norway? Their production has been declining for several years - are they keeping prices low domestically so that Norwegian businesses have all the oil they want, while exports are being cut off?

How about Russia? When their oil production dropped off as the economy collapsed post-communism, did they stop exporting? Or did they continue to export as a means of acquiring much-needed foreign capital?

And then, if these countries do subsidize internal oil consumption, how do they know what price to set? There is no market mechanism available for this purpose. It would have to be done on a purely central-planning basis.

I'd like to see some historical evidence that this is how countries behave, and that this diversion to internal markets is going to be a significant factor in the post-peak world. Did you know that the U.S. still exports oil? We are not a net exporter but there are still exports going on in various places. Oil goes where it is needed, where people are willing to pay for it. I am skeptical that this principle will cease to operate in the future.

Just look at the Seventies--when the US economy cratered while the Saudi economy boomed.  

In my opinion, this scenario is going to set up a positive feedback loop where increasing oil prices will accelerate the rate of growth in the Saudi and Russian economies, thus accelerating the increase in domestic oil demand, thus decreasing net oil exports.

By the way, current consumption for SA, Russia and Norway is about 20% of their total production (4.5 mbpd).  Based on Hubbert Linearization, their combined remaining reserves are 109 Gb.    For the sake of argument, and as a WAG, let's assume that their long term combined consumption averages 6 mbpd (remember that the average Saudi family has something like seven kids).    

Let's look forward 15 years.  At 6 mbpd, the three countries would consume a total of 33 Gb in 15 years, leaving 76 Gb available for export.   At current rates of export (6.7 Gb per year), the 76 Gb  would be consumed in about 11 years.  

What about Iran?  How long will they have oil to export?
Iran is at 50% of Qt, with about 60 Gb left.  They are producing 4.09 mbpd, consuming 1.54 mbpd, and exporting 2.55 mbpd.  

I would anticipate that they peak within five years, and then start a terminal decline.   BTW, note that the ongoing problems in Iraq are not helping the export picture.  

Hi Halfin,

You beat me to the punch, and made the case more convincingly besides.  As long as oil goes to the highest bidder, it's possible (probable is another matter) for exports to increase even as production declines.

However, my gut tells me that when peak oil becomes obvious to everyone, and prices start to skyrocket, then exporting countries may not be willing to let the market set the price, at least internally.

If there are oil riots in Saudi Arabia over the price of oil, the Saudis may begin to subsidise oil use internally and cut back on exports, for example.  But I don't see it happening in the short term.

I suppose that it will always be possible, especially since the amount of exports is set by a small minority of a nation who have every monetary incentive to keep things the same.  There are plenty of governments that export food when some of their population are starving.  If it becomes commonplace to start thinking of oil as money though, then sooner or later (and I'd bet sooner) most of the population is going to want to share in the spoils.  I think this already happened in Bolivia with natural gas and other places with scarce commodities like water.
Sadly and very sickly true, TJ. And too often those regimes are supported by developed countries' governments. The likely medium or long term result may be a more communist / distributive government in those countries, whether by democracy or revolution. Consider this a short critique of US (and others') foreign and economic policy.
I think the Saudis pay about 60 cents a gallon now. Sounds like subsidized to me. When the US price was about 1.00/gal I was paying like 0.24 cents/gal there in Riyadh.
You are almost totally correct about oil exporting nations effectively subsidising oil products' prices for domestic consumption. Usually this has been done for gross political ends, often to ameliorate low incomes. The process does seem to be gradually waning, though, and the premise of artificially holding down incomes and subsidising essentials has become increasingly untenable.

Some countries have not followed that route, UK is one example: its domestic price of petrol is higher than all other EU countries, I think, despite it having been a net exporter (until a few months ago) for more than 20 years.

The optimal use of taxation, particularly on gasoline / petrol is probably worthy of analysis, particularly when oil supply may go down, oil prices go up, in the near future. A steady increase in taxation while prices are relatively low can encourage increased efficiency without significantly prejudicing business competitiveness by allowing them to gradually adapt. It also builds a buffer into the local market price which is protective should real market prices increase significantly. When retail gas prices in US increased 50% in response to the hurricane supply shocks the UK price rose a mere 10% (I do realise this argument is somewhat flawed since the local US effects were inevitably more profound, but the difference is well beyond what could be explained by those local effects).

On this I would say that UK and other developed countries like Japan and other EU countries have got it right and the US has got it badly wrong. Admittedly that has mostly been arguably for the wrong reasons (easy source of taxation, excessive govt spending) but the US low gas taxation policy has been due to even more wrong reasons IMO.

The current gas pipeline craziness in the former soviet union is kind of a model for energy market breakdown.
Norway has as high or higher taxes on oilproducts as any EU country, and this is not likely to change. The only political party that has proposed to lower the taxes is the far right "Progress party" wich in last years campaign said they wanted to freeze the price at 8 NOK/liter (1USD=6.50NOK). The price at that point was 11-13 NOK/liter, and I think we can assume this was just a tactic to secure a few votes from angry carowners. Norway is a small country with little power over the politics of other countries, and not in a position to pressure anybody into doing anything.

In Russia the situation is different, just look at the situation in the Ukraine, Belorussia, Georgia and other ex-sovjet states. It seems pretty clear that Russia is prepared to use her energy resources as a strategic weapon. Ukrainians has experienced what happens when they elect a pro-western leader. Belorussia, called the last dictatorship in Europe, has a much more Moscow friendly leader, and Russia has not been threatening to increase their prices. If Putin thinks Russia gains more from selling cheap energy to country A than selling expensive energy to country B, then Gazprom will sell cheap energy to country A. This all depends on how much foreign capital Russia needs, balanced against what strategic advantages they can gain by shutting and opening valves on the pipelines going to various countries.

Instead of hurling sanctimony at Russia, the EU should pressure wannabe member Ukraine to stop siphoning gas allocated for other countries.   This week alone Ukraine has siphoned 400 million cubic meters of gas.  You expect Russia to tolerate this theft?  Having a "pro-western" leader doesn't give Ukraine the right to steal.

Expect another round of valve closing and bitching by the EU aimed at the wrong country.

Ukraine argue that they have a contract for 15% of the gas as transit fee. Russia wants to pay in "soft" cash and not "hard" gas and they do not want to pay as much as 15%.

There might be such a contract, there might be arguing about the legality of it, I do not know for sure. The point is that it is arguable if there is stealing involved.

Perhaps this is a signal from Saudi Arabia that the reality of  their supply is going to become more public?

"Saudi exec: Oil prices unlikely to drop"

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8FD1VHG1.htm?campaign_id=apn_home_down&chan=db

Was it only about 2 years ago when Saudi Arabia and OPEC were still saying they would supply what was needed to keep oil prices in the range of around 26 - 28 per barrel?
Hey, they were just joshing you, LOL, can't you take a joke?

But honestly, the high price of oil is mostly down to speculators making money on the markets. There is no rational reason for current high prices, supply is plentiful.

There was this french guy about 100 years back, Petomane was his stage name I think. He was a wow in London theatres doing talking farts and igniting them.

It was only last April that Bush and Saudi Crown Prince Abdullah held hands and talked about keeping prices down.
Ah, but did they kiss ;)
No photos to verify.....?
Thanks to WesTexas for this.

Here is my question - we are all assuming that internal oil use will remain unchanged as oil prices rise.  But is this really a valid assumption?

If exporting countries (SA and Russia) are poor relative to consuming countries (US and Europe), then the consuming and wealthier countries can afford higher prices which the poorer exporting countries can not.

What I'm asking is, why the response to high oil prices be a decrease in internal oil and gas usage in exporting countries, keeping exports constant or even allowing exports to increase (at least in the short term)?

It all depends on the country. If you can get $200 on the world market for a barrel and that $200 will buy 20 AK-47's and enough food to feed a village for a year, that barrel is leaving the country. You aren't going to put it in storage for the day when all your citizens drive Mercedes.
Norway has along term strategy, going back a couple of decades, to maximize their years of oil production.  Note the relative declines of UK vs. Norway for VERY comparable geology.

One part is to open for lease more northerly waters at a very measured pace.  This allows technology to "come along" and start production from a new area as the old one nears depletion.

So Norway may be past peak (surely so for current North Sea areas) but fresh areas may have more or less oil (probably less, the North Sea was a VERY good area).  So I would keep Norwegian production on a bumpy plateau. (Think US production with the "bump" of a new area opened for exploration, North Slope Alaska).

They are NOT following the implicit assumptions behind the Hubbert exploration and production curve.

If Norway is not following the "Hubbert Linearization" decline path, why did production peak (at 55% of Qt) in the same range as the other countries and regions, e.g., Lower 48 (48%), Texas (54%), Russia (53%) and the overall North Sea (52%)?  

Matt Simmons pointed out that all of the majors working the North Sea were predicting that the North Sea would not peak until 2010.   But Hubbert Linearization was dead on right for Norway specifically, and the North Sea in general.

Just as the United States is more than the "Lower 48", Norway is more than the North Sea.

The Qt mentioned is for the Norwegian North Sea, not Norway as a whole.  They exploited their first half of the North Sea more conservatively than the British did theirs and are likely to continue for the second half.  Natural gas production For now, AFAIK, increased and is offsetting decreased oil production.  They have more than enough money coming in.

Norway is now talking about future leases in unexplored territory but, again, AFAIK, has not yet made a firm decision.

I must also add: Norway has a very explicit policy to invest a large proportion of their windfall from oil so it will provide income once production declines, much like a pension fund.

Would be a bummer if the financial system collapses, but I give them immense credit for the responsible and longsighted way they have developed their oil and invested it for their future.

When you look at Scandinavia (Sweden, Norway, Denmark - insufficient knowledge of Finland, I felt it necessary to elaborate, there may ne americans here) they seem to be much more intelligent than other countries in the policies they have followed and intend to follow.

Below the result of the 4 Hubbert linearizations:

Once Qinf and K are individually computed using the Hubbert linearization, the resulting logistic curve is placed in order to match as best possible the last production number. Note that there is probably quite a large uncertainty bar on the resulting logistic curves.

Wow! That's a really sharp dropoff for Russia (see my comments above). How are you getting that?
Well, it's a pessimistic view based only on the Hubbert linearization of the indiviual countries (without any prior on the URR). The URR for Saudi Arabia and Russia is clearly pessimistic.
The bottom line is that the last production levels from SA and Russia are not sustainable and should revert toward the logistic curve very soon.
The total production curve is a direct summation of the 4 countries (for the observed productions and the logistic projections).
If I force the Qinf values to match the following ASPO URR estimates:
  • Norway: 32 Gb
  • Russia: 121 Gb
  • Iran: 130 Gb
  • SA: 209 Gb

It does not change much the curve, it's maybe less steep.

Oups! made a mistake:
- Russia: 200 Gb

sorry! the figure has been updated.

khebab,
 For your two graphs, can you please give us the exact years when each of the curves (SA, R, N, I and Total) peak, and the size of the drop in the subsequent year? It's hard to compare a graph with a low-resolution scale against reality.
Here a better view on the last figure:

I'm not interested in putting a ruler up to my screen. I want to know the exact years/numbers from the spreadsheet, as I said.
JD, it seems clear to me from the graph that every one of those countries is assumed to have already peaked (well, possibly except for Iran, but its production is pretty much flat). In each case the "future" portion of the line, which is the extrapolation from the Hubbert model, is heading downward, meaning that we are post peak.

To me, this casts serious doubt on the methodology. It's most obvious when you look at the total production curve (the top one). Here it's been heading almost straight up, and the extrapolation from the model has it doing a 180 and heading almost straight down. If Peak Oil theory depends on models that make the reverse prediction from what is really happening, you have to wonder if these curves mean as much as everyone assumes.

Sorry, lost my connection. Here are the details straight from my Matlab script:
- Norway:
Past production (<2004) 19.4746 Gb
Logistic parameters: K= 0.1647, Qinf= 30.45 Gb, peak date= 2000
- Iran:
Past production (<2004) 56.95 Gb
Logistic parameters: K= 0.0473, Qinf= 121.0982 Gb, peak date= 2009
- Saudi Arabia:
Past production (<2004) 110.63 Gb
Logistic parameters: K= 0.0777, Qinf= 175.82 Gb, peak date= 2003.5
- Russia:
Past production (<2004) 138.79 Gb
Logistic parameters: K= 0.1083, Qinf= 151.59 Gb, peak date= 1995.5
A few more details: all the production data from 1965 to 2004 are from the BP statistical review. For Russia, I retrieved production levels before 1965 from a Laherrere figure. Cumulative productions are corrected for missing pre-1965 data by using ASPO estiamte for cumulative production. What I called past production above includes 2004 (somehow the "equal" sign has been deleted by the HTML auto-formatting).

If you think there are errors in my cumulative production values, let me know.

The last graph looks the most believable, hopefully that is not just down to optimism.

I've watched the herculean efforts that you and others here have made to model the russian situation and my gut feeling is: not possible without a detailed multidimensional and complex model that would probably take several man months to devise and tweak. For now I would suggest that the approach of analysing new fields coming on stream and probable declines in existing fields is likely to be the most realistic method.

The other countries look more reasonable, though I very seriously hope that Saudi outperforms your analysis. Iran looks optimistic on the final graph.

Thanks khebab. :-)
I take it from the graph that Russia reached its 2nd peak in 2004, and has been declining since. This conflicts with the actual data from the EIA, which states that Russian oil production increased by 2.5% in 2005. What was the percentage drop in 2005 predicted by this model?
From the first graph, the Russian production is predicted to have dropped around 8.7 mbpd which clearly has not happenned!
As I said before, an unimodal function is not appropriate for Russia. Below, I give a tentative multi-logistic fit obtained from an algorithm I developped recently (too complicated to explain here). The red curve is obtain from a mixture of 4 logistic curves (the blue curves) with the following parameters:


peak year K URR
1: 1982.943 0.169 80.601
2: 1973.552 0.100 43.104
3: 2021.743 0.112 43.790
4: 2008.652 0.234 53.938

The second peak is in 2009 at 11.5 mbpd for an URR of 221 Gb which is close to the reserve estimates given by Dave above.

I may post more details on the result above on my blog over the weekend.