DrumBeat: September 13, 2007

Oil hits new record on refinery outages

Oil prices briefly hit a record high and gasoline futures jumped Thursday as refiners reported production problems after Hurricane Humberto hit Texas.

...Valero Energy Corp.'s 325,000 barrel-per-day Port Arthur, Texas, refinery was shut due to a power outage. Exxon Mobil Corp. said its Beaumont, Texas, refinery suffered a minor production outage from Humberto.

Dow Jones Newswires reported that Port Arthur refineries owned by Motiva Enterprises LLC and Total SA were also shut down due to the power outage.

UPDATE: Oil closes above $80 for first time

The world oil benchmark price briefly topped $80 a barrel

"The idea of OPEC bringing on just 500,000 barrels a day, and not until November, is like Ben Bernanke saying maybe we should lower interest rates 1/10th of 1%: It has no relevance," said Matt Simmons of Simmons & Co., an energy investment bank in Houston, and author of a controversial book contending Saudi oil reserves are less prolific than claimed.


New energy agency chief sees household energy use rising in industrial countries

Despite the growing political commitment to tackling global warming, individual energy use and carbon emissions in the leading industrial countries have actually increased in recent years, the new head of a major energy advisory group said Monday.


Dirty energy threatens health of 2 billion

The health of about 2 billion of the world’s poor is being damaged because they lack access to clean energy, like electricity, and face exposure to smoke from open fires, scientists said on Thursday.


Carmakers Turn 'Green' But is it a Smokescreen?

Even while showing off their new-found clean and green credentials, carmakers filled hall after hall in Frankfurt with powerful, tyre-squealing sports cars boasting up to 530 horsepower, or giant gas-guzzling SUVs.


Investors bask in solar power's sun

Whereas solar photovoltaic panels are installed directly on buildings and convert sunlight into electricity, solar thermal power is more complicated: it uses mirrors to concentrate sunlight and heat liquids, which are then used to drive turbines to make electricity.


Tom Whipple - The Peak Oil Crisis: A Meeting to Remember

This 500,000 barrel increase could turn out to be a real test of just how close Saudi oilfields are from going into decline and the real prospects for future world production.


Greer: The Innovation Fallacy

The core concept that has to be grasped to make sense of the future looming up before us, it seems to me, is the concept of limits. Central to ecology, and indeed all the sciences, this concept has failed so far to find any wider place in the mindscape of industrial society. The recent real estate bubble is simply another example of our culture’s cult of limitlessness at work, as real estate investors insisted that housing prices were destined to keep on rising forever. Of course those claims proved to be dead wrong, as they always are, but the fact that they keep on being made – it’s been only a few years, after all, since the same rhetoric was disproven just as dramatically in the tech stock bubble of the late 1990s – shows just how allergic most modern people are to the idea that there’s an upper limit to anything.

It’s this same sort of thinking that drives the common belief that limits on industrial society’s access to energy can be overcome by technological innovations. This claim looks plausible at first glance, since the soaring curve of energy use that defines recent human history can be credited to technological innovations that allowed human societies to get at the huge reserves of fossil fuels stored inside the planet. The seemingly logical corollary is that we can just repeat the process, coming up with innovations that will give us ever increasing supplies of energy forever.


Pipeline bombs

A series of attacks on September 10th on Mexico’s natural-gas pipelines have dealt the country a triple blow: they have crippled affected businesses, caused losses to the state oil company Petróleos Mexicanos and hurt the government of President Felipe Calderón. Concern about the vulnerability of Mexico’s infrastructure and its vital oil and gas industry is likely to increase as a result. The incidents also suggest that Mr Calderón, who has proven to be more effective in his early months in office than had been anticipated, still faces considerable challenges from both within and outside the political system.


India Caps Natural Gas Price, May Scare New Explorers

India capped natural gas prices 34 percent below a global benchmark, cutting returns for Reliance Industries Ltd., and deterring global companies from exploring.


Venezuela may double, triple natural gas reserves, Chavez says

Venezuela, the biggest oil exporter in South America, has proved natural gas reserves of 180 trillion cubic feet and hopes to double or triple the total through exploration, President Hugo Chavez said on Wednesday.


OPEC says new fuels pose risk to future oil demand

OPEC sees efforts by consumer nations to promote alternative fuels as posing risks of a fall in world oil demand in the long term, an official of the exporter group said on Thursday.


Italians call for pasta strike due to increase of prices

Italians were called to join a pasta strike on Thursday to protest against the inexplicable increase of prices.


Hurricane Humberto Hits Texas With Winds of 85 Mph

In Port Arthur, about 16 miles southeast of Beaumont, Total SA, Europe's third-largest oil company, said its refinery lost all power at 4:33 a.m. Crews are assessing damage and working to restore power, Total's Petro Chemicals USA Port Arthur plant said today in a report to the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality. Valero Energy Corp. closed its Port Arthur refinery because of Hurricane Humberto.

Port Arthur's Total SA plant produces 240,000 barrels of oil a day, Valero Energy Corp.'s facility produces 325,000and Motiva Enterprises LLC plant produces 285,000 barrels a day. Motiva is a refining joint venture between Royal Dutch Shell Plc and Saudi Aramco.


Ecocidal Tendencies: Must we destroy the family to save the world?

Is contemporary environmentalism motivated by genocidal fantasies? Responses to Daniel Engber's analysis of calls for voluntary population control include several such accusations. Supporters for the proposition tend to argue that population reduction is coming; our only choices relate to how it will happen.


Bill McKibben may inspire you to change more than light bulbs

McKibben, an American environmentalist and author best-known for his work The End of Nature, postulates in his latest book, Deep Economy: The Wealth of Communities and the Durable Future, that in order to truly push past the energy crisis, there must be more local direction, with regions producing their own food, energy, culture and entertainment.


No escape from the day when the power turns off

The soaring consumption of oil is quickening the pace of the impending oil crisis. It has been estimated that by 2059 - 200 years after the world's first commercial oil well was drilled in 1859 - oil resource will be used up.


The rise of resource nationalism in Indonesia

The rise of resource nationalism today manifests itself in moves by host country governments to either raise taxes on international oil and mining companies (IOCs), tighten the state's control over production, change contract terms or nationalize the operations.


Russian Control Of Iran-Armenia Pipeline Confirmed

Armenia’s Russian-controlled national gas distribution company has become the owner of the entire Armenian section of an under-construction natural gas pipeline from Iran, it was officially confirmed on Wednesday.


Zimbabwe: Delta Resorts to Coal Imports

LOCAL companies have resorted to expensive coal imports from South Africa due to escalating shortages on the local market, primarily supplied by Hwange Colliery Company whose deliveries have declined to precarious levels, The Financial Gazette can report.

Production capacity at most industrial operations in the country has plumbed fresh depths, severely undermined by the erratic deliveries of the critical industrial mineral.


Iran and the revolution’s economic malaise

The IMF estimates that Iran state subsidies on gasoline, food, housing, bank credit and fertiliser account for 25 per cent of GDP, a recipe for economic disaster. Government spending in Iran has gone ballistic with the rise in crude oil prices. The gasoline subsidy ensures Iran has the cheapest petrol in the world, a major factor that explains Teheran’s clogged traffic, pollution and oil smuggling syndicates. The billions of dollars Iran wastes in subsidising gasoline should have been used to build local refining capacity or upgrade ageing oilfields in a rational world but the economics of revolutionary Iran is anything but rational.


Saudi petchem JV likely to delay plant start to Q1

Saudi Chevron Phillips Co is likely to delay the start up of its $3 billion petrochemical plant in Jubail to first-quarter 2008 from fourth-quarter this year, industry sources and end users said on Thursday.


OPEC Seeks to Bridge Gulf Over Venezuelan Oil Output

Staff from the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries have met with officials from member country Venezuela in a bid to bridge the gulf between the country's stated official oil production level and estimates a third lower by news agencies and institutions, a gap that some say has undermined the credibility of the Latin American nation's oil policies.


Raymond J. Learsy: OPEC Tosses Us A Few Crumbs While Oil Marches to $80. Why?

Perhaps the more interesting question, though,is why oil went on to reach new highs after OPEC tossed us this crumb. Might the lack of transparency in commodity futures trading have something to do with it? How easy it would be for OPEC members to promise a supposedly price-easing quota boost just to fill a newspaper headline, while surreptitiously manipulating the price higher by buying up oil futures contracts in markets that are both opaque and commodity exchanges that are largely unregulated from London to Singapore.

But then again, why bother manipulating futures prices higher when the scaremongers and peak-oil pranksters will do it for you.


BP shrinking Gulf of Mexico operations; to focus on two platforms

BP will be concentrating on the Atlantis and Thunder Horse regions - among the world's biggest platforms and underwater structures. BP has been forced to delay both projects several times, and their falling further behind schedule would be damaging to the U.K. oil giant, the FT reported.


BP Alaska oil output down on maintenance, not fires

A sharp drop in BP's Alaskan crude production this month has been caused by seasonal maintenance and not by a string of fires, the oil major said on Wednesday.

Alaskan government data shows output from BP's Prudhoe Bay field dropped to 186,000 barrels per day on Monday, down from over 300,000 bpd at the start of the month.


A Non-OPEC Progress Report

A data-driven analysis of new oil projects outside of the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) reveals that production growth is now surpassing the dismal performance exhibited in 2005 and 2006. New project schedules and the EIA's supply data make it possible to take a close look at the non-OPEC supply situation, and thus make a rough estimate of how 2007 will turn out.


Record oil prices to hurt Asian Q4 gasoline demand

Record oil prices are set to hurt Asian gasoline demand in the fourth quarter, as major importing nations will come under pressure to conserve fuel or roll back retail subsidies that prop up demand.


Compromise on oil law in Iraq seems to be collapsing

A carefully constructed compromise on a draft law governing Iraq's rich oil fields, agreed to in February after months of arduous talks among Iraqi political groups, appears to have collapsed. The apparent breakdown comes just as Congress and the White House are struggling to find evidence that there is progress toward reconciliation and a functioning government here.


Mexico blasts could threaten investment

An attack on Mexico's gas and oil pipelines this week has shut down more than 2,000 businesses throughout the country at a cost of $200 million per day, an industrial official said Wednesday.


Venezuelan state grasps 70.9 percent of 2006 Pdvsa income

The overwhelming increase in the input by state-run oil holding Petróleos de Venezuela (Pdvsa) in 2006, to USD 11.9 billion raised the percentage of oil revenues that ended in the hands of the Venezuelan state, both as taxes and contributions to social welfare programs.


Analysis: Venezuela, China boost oil ties

Venezuelan and Chinese state petroleum companies said they will spend more than $10 billion to develop the oil-rich Faja del Orinoco region, part of a continuing effort by Caracas to bolster ties between the two countries.


Exxon seeks deal on Venezuela oil

Exxon Mobil is seeking arbitration over a stand-off with Venezuela about the takeover of its oil assets.


Alberta warned on royalties

Leaders from the Canadian oilsands sector offered their own warnings yesterday against tinkering with Alberta's royalty structure, four days before a special six-member task force reports on whether Albertans are getting a fair share of the province's oil and gas riches.


Natural gas drillers brace for sour year

Hopes that Canada's natural gas industry might soon pull itself out of its severe slump were dashed Tuesday as the country's largest natural gas producers said low commodity prices will force them to keep domestic spending on exploration in 2008 on a par with this year's anemic levels.


Denmark Aims for Meeting of Arctic Nations to Discuss Borders

Denmark and semiautonomous Greenland plan to host a meeting of five Arctic nations next year against the backdrop of increasing interest in the region's natural resources, reports said Thursday.


Mitsubishi, Shell, Exxon to develop coal liquefying device to process oil

Asia's biggest power equipment manufacturer Mitsubishi Heavy Industries Ltd. will jointly develop coal liquefication facilities, which are used to produce gasoline and other petroleum products, with Royal Dutch Shell Plc and Exxon Mobil Corp., a leading financial paper here reported Thursday.


Russian coal exporters buying own rail wagons

Russian coal exporters are scrambling to buy thousands of rail wagons because a chronic shortage of those provided by state rail monopoly RZhD has disrupted exports, an official at major exporter KRUTrade said.


Russian Gas Politics: Putin Does It Again

Putin is also an expert at playing the hydrocarbon card. He's arrested oligarchs who won super-cheap oil and gas contracts from predecessor Boris Yeltsin after the USSR fell, merging their fossil fuel assets into national champions Gazprom and Rosneft, its oil equivalent. He also used creative contract revision and even environmental citations to wrest control of two major Siberian exploration projects away from Shell and BP.


As We Stand on the Brink of Catastrophe, Bio-Fuels are no Magic Bullet

Having made ethanol into this magic elixir, politicians, financial investors, and the occasional environmental organization are masking the need for far deeper investigation and solutions.


Study: Rising sea endangers coastal cities

A chilling set of three-dimensional images of climate-triggered sea rise flooding into coastal U.S. cities was released this week by the environmental nonprofit group Architecture 2030.

A sea level rise as little as 1 meter could have catastrophic impact along the country's 12,000 miles of coastline, where 53 percent of Americans live, according to the group's pathbreaking scientific analysis.

Such cities as Miami Beach and Hollywood, Fla.; New Orleans; Hampton, Va.; and Point Pleasant, N.J., would have major areas underwater with a sea rise of 1 meter or less. By a 1.5-meter rise, Miami and other Florida communities, along with East Boston, Mass.; Galveston, Texas; and Atlantic City, N.J., are in deep trouble. By 3 meters, San Francisco, New York, Boston, San Diego and Savannah, Ga., fall victim to severe damage.

Check out the U.S. flood maps here. Click on a location, and you'll get a Google Earth image. Mouse over it, and you'll see what it would look like with a 1.5m sea level rise.

Galveston, oh Galveston...


Shell CEO says "psychology" behind high oil prices

Royal Dutch Shell Plc's top executive said on Wednesday he sees no fundamental reason for crude oil prices to have jumped above $78 a barrel.

"No one has to wait at the gas pumps of the world. There is no physical problem," Shell Chief Executive Jeroen van der Veer told reporters in Calgary.


Forget about fundamentals, this is the oil market after all

As oil prices surged to a record of more than $80 (U.S.) a barrel yesterday, analysts were asking just one question.

Why?


Bodman Says $80 a Barrel Oil Prices Are `Troublesome'

Record crude oil prices above $80 a barrel are "troublesome," U.S. Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman said today.


Traders doubt OPEC's ability to boost output

Such uncertainties also lead inevitably to renewed airing of the Peak Oil theory, which posits that the world's petroleum production is at or near an unsustainable high and doomed to drop as demand gradually overwhelms supply.


China targets strategic oil reserve of 12 mln tons by 2010 - report

China aims to increase its strategic oil reserve to 12 mln tons by 2010, from 2-3 mln tons currently, the official Shanghai Securities News reported, citing a senior state planner.


Thais suffer without subsidies as oil hits record

Thais are to suffer another economic blow as global oil prices rose to a record above $80 a barrel and the post-coup government ruled out resurrecting fuel subsidies that were dumped as too expensive.

Motorists in Thailand are more exposed to global oil rises than many in Asia, after the country freed fuel prices at the pump to market rates by 2005, unlike countries such as China and India that maintain government-capped prices.


Officials: Pipeline will help N.D. oil producers

Increased pipeline capacity may help North Dakota oil producers avoid discounts as high as $30 a barrel when selling their crude, along with giving them more shipping options, two industry officials say.

New pipelines designed to bring Canadian oil to Midwestern refineries also may ease pressure on an important east-west pipeline that many North Dakota producers rely on to transport their oil, said Lynn Helms, director of North Dakota’s Department of Mineral Resources.


API Chief Economist John Felmy: Cellulosic Ethanol Potentially a ‘Holy Grail’ (Part 4 of 6)

But while Felmy was optimistic about the contribution plug-ins might make, he was downright ecstatic about the potential contribution that cellulosic ethanol might make. “Potentially, it’s a Holy Grail,” he told EnergyTechStocks.com.


Ten fuel-saving tips from a hypermiler

Wayne Gerdes knows how to wring a gas tank dry.

He can squeeze 84 miles per gallon from your standard-issue Ford Ranger pick-up. He once averaged more than 100 mpg during the course of an entire summer. And while behind the wheel of a hybrid electric Honda Insight, he coaxed the vehicle into yielding an astonishing 180.1 mpg. Gerdes can do these seemingly impossible things with a car because he is one of a rare breed of drivers known as hypermilers.


Judge rejects carmakers' emission suit

Vermont and several other states scored a victory on Wednesday in their battle to get automakers to comply with rules aimed at reducing global warming.

A federal judge ruled that states can regulate greenhouse gas emissions from vehicles, rejecting automakers' claims that federal law pre-empts state rules and that technology can't be developed to meet them.


Brazil wants probe of U.S. farm aid

Brazil will ask the World Trade Organization for a formal investigation of U.S. farm subsidy programs, which it says includes payments for ethanol production, a senior Brazilian official said Wednesday.


Yunus calls for lifestyle 'traffic rule' to fight warming

The 2006 Nobel Peace Prize winner Muhammad Yunus called for a worldwide lifestyle change, saying global warming is "a matter of life and death" for low-lying nations like his own country Bangladesh.

In a keynote speech to a symposium on climate change, Yunus suggested a "traffic rule" under which products bear red, yellow or green markings to indicate the extent to which they come from renewable sources.


Tories propose new 'green taxes' to protect the environment

A higher tax on domestic flights and a moratorium on airport expansions are among some of the key proposals a Conservative policy group will announce Thursday as part of the political party's commitment to fighting climate change.


Eating less meat may slow climate change

Eating less meat could help slow global warming by reducing the number of livestock and thereby decreasing the amount of methane flatulence from the animals, scientists said on Thursday.


English coastal storms more intense, but is it climate change?

Coastal storms battering the southern coast of England have sharply increased in intensity over the last century and a half, a possible consequence of global warming.


Global warming impact like "nuclear war": report

Climate change could have global security implications on a par with nuclear war unless urgent action is taken, a report said on Wednesday.

The International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS) security think-tank said global warming would hit crop yields and water availability everywhere, causing great human suffering and leading to regional strife.


World crops could decline 16% due to warming

Global warming could send world agriculture into serious decline by 2080 with productivity collapsing in some developing countries while it improves in a few rich nations, a study reported on Wednesday.

India, Pakistan, most of Africa and most of Latin America would be hit hardest, said economist William Cline, the study's author. The United States, most of Europe, Russia and Canada would probably see agricultural gains if climate change continues on its current course, the study found.

Re: Forget about fundamentals, this is the oil market after all

Hurricane Humberto popped up last night and hit land near Houston. As of 11 PM EDT last night, the NHC thought Humberto would hit as a tropical storm. Surprise, surprise!

Don't forget, it's already Fall and we saw record low temperatures across the northern U.S. the past few days. Time to stock up on that heating oil.

E. Swanson


Humberto-linked power outage shutters Valero refinery

Valero spokesman Bill Day said Thursday the company shut down its 325,000 barrel per day refinery in Port Arthur, Texas due to a power outage caused by Hurricane Humberto. Valero will try moving equipment into the area to re-start part of the operation, he said.

Speaking of heating oil - I got my tank topped off on Tuesday at $2.47/gallon, which was the same price I paid in April. Wednesday, the same company was charging $2.62/gallon (I'm in Mass). I'll be stacking the rest of my wood this weekend...

I was gathering wood all last weekend, and will be this one too. Found a nice big oak that's been dead a couple of years and just recently fell - jackpot!

I'm putting the finishing touches on my Geothermal Heat Pump over the next couple of weeks (after work and weekends). I retrofitted my house from Electric Baseboard to Radiant floors in my half, and hot water baseboard in my tenants half. Hopefully it saves as much as I think it will, 4-5 Kwh of heat for every 1 Kwh I pay for. I have been using a woodstove in my half for the past several years, but I'm opting for the super efficient. Also if/when I move out, I don't want to give a tenant a woodstove, I'd rather they have this.

The Hurricane centre is certainly on their toes this year...not due to numbers, but unpredictability.

NHC was pretty much predicting TD9/Humberto would fizzle as it move onshore...and it did neither (move on shore or fizzle).

Dean, Erin, and Felix were no different in their surprises...rate they intensified, tracks they took, how long they sustained insensity.

Definitely, new factors in play they need to integrate into the models.

On another note, Apparently we are "Peak Oil PRANKSTERS" now! Like crop circle pranksters...were doing just for fun!

A Truckstop Perspective

"Sand?" Surely I'd misunderstood. "You're hauling sand from Canada to Texas?"

"Yup," the driver said as he tasted his coffee. "There's pretty good pay in it, 'cept I had to deadhead up to Alberta to get it. I'll get a little extra fer that, at least."

I shook my head in disbelief. "Wouldn't it be cheaper to ship it by rail?"

"Prolly." He looked thoughtful, then shrugged. "Guess they don't have trains running close by where the sand is. It keeps movin' around, an' the railroads can't move around to keep up."

I took a moment to digest this. "Doesn't Texas have sand? Who in the world is paying for this?" An image of a Texas zillionaire rolling gleefully in sand came unbidden to my mind, and I forced it to the background.

"Well, there's different grades of sand, and I reckon this drillin' outfit needs this particular kind." He took another sip of coffee. "I think their name is Diamond somethin' or other."

I made a noncommittal noise as I tried to come up with a reply. "It's a crazy world."

"Got that right!" He grinned and waved on his way out the door.

Reminds me of a news story I read about Saudi Arabia importing sand. You'd think if there's one thing they'll never have to import, it's sand. But, as your trucker friend noted, it's the kind of sand.

Re: Sand to Saudi Arabia

I think I may have mentioned this on TOD quite some time ago. Circa 1971 I worked for a company that supplied water and wastewater treatment equipment. They had just won a big order from ARAMCO for sand filters to treat injection water. These filter require that the sand particles conform to a certain specified size range and uniformity (if the particles are too small, the filter plugs up too easily; if they are too large, the filtration effectiveness is impaired).

So, along with the order for the filters was an order for several hundred tons of properly graded filter sand. Evidently, at the time, the Saudis either didn't have the capability or the inclination to do sand particle size grading.

After that, our salesmen (no 'salespersons' at the time) used to brag that they were so good, they could sell sand to the Saudi Arabians.

A year or two back there was a shortage of sand for frac jobs in the Permian Basin. We had newly drilled wells sitting idle for months for lack of sand.And you are right, it had to be a very specific type of sand. One of our engineers was very passionate that we not accept substitutes the vendors had offered up as solutions. He was a good engineer, and I trusted his judgement, but until then I never thought of sand as a potential constraint to oil and gas operations.

While on the subject of sand, it is almost universally assumed that sand is essentially infinitely abundant. It is not. There are many regions of the country with little usable sand, thus requiring sand to be shipped in from other regions. If you are not near a seashore or an area with readily accessible alluvial deposits, chances are sand is probably not too plentiful in your area.

I discovered this fact sort of accidently a number of years ago while playing around with an invention to rapidly fill large fabric sand 'sausages' for emergency flood control, following the severe 1993 floods in the US Midwest. Not all parts of the Midwest have ready access to large sand deposits. (Anyway, due to potential patent problems, I chose not to pursue this idea any further. The next time there is a major flood, you will still see people manually filling sandbags, one by one, which is pretty absurb if you really think about it.)

it's a great idea though
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More sand. After the local molybdenum mine shut to overseas competition, a sand outfit took up with expensive white sand for golf courses, private beaches. Priorities; it's trucked.

Anybody worked out a date for Peak Sand?

I would hope that they could truck it until they got to a train terminal that could take it down to Texas, then truck it from there to it's destination. I'm sure they could arrange it, but then you'd be dealing with 3 companies instead of just one. Likely the buyer doesn't care much about the price, so the guy arranging the shipping doesn't care either. Bad sourcing, IMHO.

~Durandal (http://www.wtdwtshtf.com/)

Some of this may be due to the "just-in-time" logistics. Any breakdown in train or river transport and you have to pay big bucks to truck in some commodity so that your whole process doesn't shut down.
I have a truck-driver friend who just switched jobs so he could be at home more. Used to drive long-haul but now drives a dump truck. He was told most of his deliveries would be local but he's found himself doing a lot of runs from SE Ohio to Pittsburgh (around 200 miles) with a load of coal or manganese alloy steel or even concrete. It seems crazy to truck heavy commodities in this way and especially so given the fact that SE Ohio and Pittsburgh are connected by the Ohio river and materials can be shipped very cheaply on the river. Of course, they cannot be shipped quickly on the river. The just-in-time system of logistics may be an early causalty of peak oil.

Then again it did not surprise me to hear of another strange logistic. After all, every day I see coal barges going down the Ohio river from West Virginia passing barges going up river with coal from Wyoming (via Iowa) to West Virginia.

That is no nonsense - I have a friend who's father works for an aggregates company in outstate Nebraska. They're putting a certain grade of sand into semis going all over the place. They've got some stuff that is the right size/weight/whatever and they're putting 90% of their energy into that because demand is so high right now.

Here in Sonoma county (CA) we've just had a fair mixup about sand. It seems that fom umpteen years the concrete companies have been mining the Russian river. I guess they got too close to some vineyards and had to stop. We now import sand from, I think, Oregon.

Chris Skrebowski on record high oil price

http://globalpublicmedia.com/chris_skrebowski_on_record_high_oil_price

UK Petroleum Review editor Chris Skrebowski discusses today's $80 per barrel record high oil price with GPM's Julian Darley. Skrebowski also talks about his expectations for the rest of 2007.

On a side not (and perhaps this is a nod to WT's Iron Triangle Theory) has anyone else noticed that the inflation adjusted 'peak' in the 80s keeps moving forward? Just two days ago, I read that, adjusted for inflation, the cost per barrel was 84.xx cents. Today, in this article, the inflation adjusted price jumps way up:

Despite the gains, oil is still well below inflation-adjusted highs hit in early 1980. Depending on the adjustment, a $38 barrel of oil in 1980 would be worth $96 to $101 or more today.

What gives?

Inflation has dramatically escalated in the last few months.

One wonders just what the MSM is drinking. Sarconal ?

Alan

How many big macs could you get for a barrel of oil in 1980?

Right - as the price of oil rises, overall inflation increases, meaning that the current oil price must be deflated even more to compare it to the 1980 price. So the question becomes, can the oil price spike quickly enough to catch it's old record?

I dont think inflation has increased to 75% in the last 3 months, which is what would have been required to cause that spike :P

It also depends on whether you use the daily, monthly or annual peak price in the 1980/1981 time frame.

The interview is worth listening to. 14 minutes so not too long.

The EAT LESS MEAT... article above has to be one of the stupidest things I heard. What do we substitute? Broccoli and beans? Then we change the source of flatulence from farm animals to us? Perhaps we could get some new government regulations to help curb our emissions? I know my 80 year old father and 81 year old mother-in-law both need regulating.

ej

Hey be serious I am gassy no matter what! I mean I litterally eexplode all day long

Anyway I do think that it is a good thing sure you do end up farting more but who really cares anyway? Would you rather trash the planet or save it? I really see no way to continue to eat meat at this rate and keep things sustainaable.

next they will ask me to get rid of my dog ... But he can't help himself

For an aromatic experience, dine with a team of long distance runners.

That's actually one of the reasons why I've cut out red meat from my diet except with rare occasions. (I'm not a fanatic about refusing it, but I won't buy it.)
~Durandal (http://www.wtdwtshtf.com/)

I have nothing against Vegans, but the holier than thou approach gets old. If hard times come, I'm sure the Vegans will be the first to go "missing". According to the Russians, they taste like chicken....;-)

It may be better to be a live jackal than a dead lion, but it is better still to be a live lion. And usually easier. - Heinlein
To Ride, Shoot Straight and Speak the Truth - Col Cooper

I despise any holier than thou crowd, which is why I don't rag on people who eat meat, and I don't make a stink about things. (In other words, when eating out, I'll opt for the fish dish instead of trying to make a hundred substitutions.) If a vegan were to come to my house and complain about my meal not being vegan friendly, I'd reply by asking if they would serve dairy and meat for their non-vegan friends if THEY came over.

It's just the normal thing of, you do your thing, I do my thing, and we leave each other to our own things. hehe.
~Durandal (http://www.wtdwtshtf.com/)

If a vegan were to come to my house and complain about my meal not being vegan friendly, I'd reply by asking if they would serve dairy and meat for their non-vegan friends if THEY came over.

Agree wholeheartedly. I believe that dining together is one of the most sacred and primitive of rituals and a guest should honor the host by eating and enjoying what is served, regardless of food ideologies (with exception of actual allergy problems).

When I lived in WNC mountains, I was a guest many times at mountain folk's dinner tables. I enjoyed many a serving of corn bread, soup beans, pork and ham. I don't think it ever hurt me a bit.