DrumBeat: November 29, 2007


John Michael Greer: Lifeboat time

By this point there are few metaphors for crisis more hackneyed than the fatal conjunction of ship and iceberg, but the comparison retains its usefulness because it throws the issues surrounding crisis management into high relief. When the hull’s pierced and water’s rising belowdecks, the window of opportunity for effective action is brief, and if the water can’t be stopped very soon, it’s lifeboat time.

By almost any imaginable standard, that time has arrived for the industrial world. Debates about whether world petroleum production will peak before 2030 or not miss a point obvious to anybody who’s looked at the figures: world petroleum production peaked in November 2005 at some 86 million barrels of oil a day, and has been declining slowly ever since. So far the gap has been filled with tar sands, natural gas liquids, and other unconventional liquids, all of which cost more than ordinary petroleum in terms of money and energy input alike, and none of which can be produced at anything like the rate needed to supply the world’s rising energy demand. As depletion of existing oil fields accelerates, the struggle to prop up the current production plateau promises to become a losing battle against geological reality.

Shell fire squeezes Alberta's diesel supply

A fire at a Shell refinery east of Edmonton is partly to blame for a shortage of diesel fuel in Alberta.

Flying J Inc., which operates more than 20 diesel outlets in Alberta, said six outlets have run out of diesel and several others list their supply as "critically low."


The Epic Battle over Crude Oil and the US$

Why are Ahmadinejad and Chavez laughing? Oil prices are up 56% this year, after nearly reaching $100 per barrel. At the same time, the US Dollar is mired at a 20-year low, with the US economy teetering on the verge of a recession. The US dollar has fallen over 50% versus the Euro since 2002, and oil prices are nearly five times higher over the same time period. Increasingly, the US dollar’s reserve currency status is looking very fragile. Perhaps, all that’s left supporting the greenback is America’s military might. “They get our oil and give us a worthless piece of paper,” Ahmadinejad told OPEC ministers in the Saudi capital of Riyadh, insulting the US dollar.


Petrodollars on the Move

Citigroup may have lost its Prince (CEO Chuck, who resigned in disgrace after major sub-prime losses), but the energy-rich Gulf emirate of Abu Dhabi has come to the rescue. This is no magic lamp. It's petrodollar recycling, and it's changing the face of Arab and western economies.


Gazprom on track to reach $1 trillion market cap

Alexander Medvedev, deputy chairman of the managing committee of Russia's Gazprom said the world's largest natural gas company is on track to hit $1 trillion in market capitalization in the next few years.


In Venezuela, petrodollars breed opacity

As petrodollars stream into oil-producing countries, Western officials have begun to demand greater accountability for the way they are spent. Some corruption-plagued states, like Nigeria and Azerbaijan, have heeded the call, increasing financial transparency, or at least paying lip service to it. Hugo Chávez's Venezuela, however, appears headed in the opposite direction.


A local approach to easing gridlock

Coming soon to a bottleneck near you:

•"Queue-jumper" lanes such as one in Lee County, Fla., where harried drivers paying a 25-cent toll can get around backed-up intersections.

•Trucker toll lanes, already under consideration in Atlanta, that will in effect segregate big rigs from the rest of the freeway public.

•Privately managed zoom lanes, similar to the South Bay Expressway that opened in San Diego on Nov. 19, that allow motorists to move at a heavenly 65 miles per hour.


Are you driving yourself crazy?

"It affects people's health and family life," said commute management expert Dave Rizzo of Fullerton. "In the winter, there are some people who never see their house in the daylight. It gets to you after a while. It's very depressing."

Called "Dr. Roadmap," Rizzo is the author of "Survive the Drive: How to Beat Freeway Traffic in Southern California." He says studies show that stretch commutes can lead to mental and physical problems, including high blood pressure and increased heart rate and stress levels.


State of the Science: Beyond the Worst Case Climate Change Scenario

"The governments now require, in fact, that the authors report on risks that are high and 'key' because of their potentially very high consequence," says economist Gary Yohe, a lead author on the IPCC Synthesis Report. "They have, perhaps, given the planet a chance to save itself."

Among those risks...


Top 100 Ways Global Warming Will Change Your Life

Say goodbye to French wines, baseball and the Great Barrier Reef. Say hello to massive amounts of mosquitoes, the northwest passage and hurricanes.


Ethanol a sticking point in energy bill

With oil prices in record territory, presidential candidates stumping for votes in corn-centric Iowa, and congressional Democrats anxious to pass an energy bill to cut the nation's dependence on Mideast oil, this should be the right moment for ethanol.

But a plan to dramatically increase ethanol production has become a major sticking point in congressional negotiations to complete work on the bill. And it has created a challenge for House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, whose Democratic caucus has split over the issue.


PetroEcuador President Pareja Is Fired After Protests

Ecuador removed the president of the state-owned oil company after protests in the Amazon region shut down some production.

PetroEcuador President Carlos Pareja was fired today and will be replaced by Fernando Zurita, a navy admiral, the government said in a statement. Ecuadorean President Rafael Correa declared a state of emergency for the company.


Raymond J. Learsy: Time To Tap The Strategic Petroleum Reserve As Pipeline Explosion Cuts U.S. Supplies

Will the administration, that is to say President Bush and Energy Secretary Bodman, do the needful, and immediately announce a release from our 750 million barrel Petroleum Reserve to compensate for the Canadian oil shortfall? It stands to reason that they should. But then again this is an administration so wedded to oil interests, they might well want to continue adding to the stockpile rather than releasing supplies to stabilize market disruptions. This, while American consumers, who paid for the Strategic Petroleum Reserve in the first place, continue to have their pockets picked. Here we have a real test of whether we have an administration wedded to national interests or oil interests first and foremost.


Enbridge Restores Pipelines, Confidence

Oil prices had been falling back since flirting with the $100 threshold earlier this month. Part of the pullback was attributable to speculation concerning next week's OPEC ministerial meeting, which could result in a production increase of somewhere between 500,000 barrels and 1 million barrels per day. (See "Oil Prices Ease")

But the likelihood is that OPEC will simply do nothing, preferring instead to wait and see what the global financial crisis will do to the economy at large, as well as the price of oil. If the winter is mild and macroeconomic conditions fail to support added pressure on oil, talk of crude at $100 per barrel may not become reality just yet.


Enbridge Pipe Fire Looks Like Accident, Not Violation, DOT Says

Staff for Enbridge was working to repair a leak on one of the pipelines when the fire occurred, Damon Hill, spokesman for the department's Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration, said today in a telephone interview. It ``looks like more of a commercial industrial accident than a pipeline safety incident,'' he said.


TAP gas pipeline project in trouble

The $4 billion Turkmenistan-Afghanistan-Pakistan (TAP) gas pipeline project, which India has been invited to join, may be shelved due to a fresh pact between Russian gas giant Gazprom and Ashgabat for increased Europe-bound gas supplies at higher rates.


Enbridge says to restart all lines within days

Enbridge Pipeline said on Thursday it hopes to restart all of its crude oil pipelines within a few days after a fatal explosion in Minnesota Wednesday.

"Line 4, a heavy crude line, remains shut down but is expected to return to service later this morning as it has now been confirmed that it was not damaged as a result of the incident," the company said in a release.

"Line 3, a heavy crude line, which was directly involved in the incident, remains shut down. Based on a preliminary estimate of the repair time it is expected that it may require two to three days to return Line 3 to service."


DOE could tap oil reserve after fire

The government said Thursday it is prepared to tap emergency crude-oil stockpiles to mitigate the effects of a pipeline disruption in the Midwest.

....The U.S. has 63.5 million barrels of oil reserves in the Midwest region, which "can provide a cushion ... (and) oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve is available to alleviate a severe supply disruption and remains available if necessary," Energy Department spokeswoman Megan Barnett said Thursday.


Accidents on Enbridge oil pipeline system in 2007

Capacity on the pipeline is growing tight due to rising oil production in Alberta and Enbridge has been working to expand the pipeline. The system suffered several incidents this year prior to the blast on Wednesday. A list of these incidents follows...


Finland's Neste Oil Corporation issues profit warning

Finnish oil company Neste Oil Corporation said on Thursday (29 November) that the planned short maintenance turnaround at Neste Oil's new diesel line, commissioned at the Porvoo refinery this summer, has continued longer than expected.


Kurdish Ministers Woo U.S. Oil Firms

After more than a year of political deadlock in Iraq over a national petroleum law, the Kurdistan Regional Government unanimously adopted its own petroleum legislation in August. In the past month, it has signed a dozen oil exploration contracts and hopes that foreign firms will ultimately invest $10 billion in the oil sector and bring 1 million barrels a day of new oil production from the Kurdish region over the next five years.


West Texas residents stay grounded on oil boom

One regular customer, Ray Littlefield, toiled 40 years in the oil patch, starting at $1 an hour. The 71-year-old retiree can remember when oil cost $2.40 per barrel and the New York Yankees manager was the cantankerous and witty Casey Stengel, who made even umpires laugh. "Never make predictions," Stengel advised, "especially about the future."

Littlefield sips his oil-black coffee and prognosticates anyway.

"It'll hit a hunnerd" -- $100 a barrel -- "before the end of the year."


Russians live the caviar dream

More Russians have cars. There are 36 million registered vehicles in Russia now compared with 11 million in 1995 and 28 million two years ago, according to Russia's Interior Ministry.


US to order reduced rates on Enbridge oil pipeline

The U.S. Department of Transportation will likely order the giant Enbridge pipeline system to run at reduced pressure while an investigation into a deadly blast on the line in Minnesota is conducted.


IEA monitors Canada-U.S. oil pipeline outage

The International Energy Agency said on Thursday it was closely monitoring a pipeline outage that has halted a fifth of U.S. crude imports and added over $3 to oil prices.

The IEA, which advises 26 industrialised nations, can tap its members' emergency reserves to prevent a global energy crisis.

Lawrence Eagles, head of the IEA's oil and industry markets division, said it was too early to say how much of an impact the incident will have on the market.


Analysis: Kirkuk project battle heats up

Iraq's Oil Ministry is accusing the Kurdistan region of preventing development of one of Iraq's oldest, largest and most controversial oil fields, another dispute in the battle over control of the country's vast reserves.

While the rift has been public, the issue of the Kirkuk oil field project is starting to surface in conflicting accounts.


Venezuelan leader's power play has echoes of Castro

"Venezuela is going to be a big, big headache" for Washington if Chávez wins the referendum, says Javier Corrales, a political science professor and Chávez watcher at Amherst College.

Corrales says an emboldened Chávez could drive up energy prices through his control of Venezuela's oil industry, refuse to cooperate with U.S. anti-drug efforts and undermine the fight against Islamist militants through his economic partnership with Iran, a state sponsor of terrorism.


Maine: Logging truckers consider D.C. visit

With some facing bankruptcy, the state’s independent logging truckers are considering rolling on Washington, D.C., to protest high diesel fuel costs that they say are killing the state’s forest products industries, which pump about $11.5 billion a year into Maine’s economy.


Freeze Foreclosures, Fix Energy Mess

There should be a six-month freeze on home foreclosures while the Federal Reserve Board, Treasury secretary and congressional leaders bring together all stakeholders in the housing crisis to seek rational rescheduling of troubled loans with greater disclosure, transparency and fairness to all parties.

On the energy front, there should be an American summit meeting modeled after the Davos World Economic Forum to bring together government leaders, Wall Street firms, venture capitalists, private equity companies, consumer groups and businesses producing alternative energy and energy-conserving products to create a “JFK goes to the moon” program to address what Jimmy Carter called “the moral equivalent of war.”


PNOC-EC Exec: Data from Spratlys Oil, Gas Survey 'Encouraging'

A seismic survey jointly conducted by the Philippines, China and Vietnam to assess the potential oil an gas reserves in an area of the South China Sea including the disputed Spratlys Islands yielded "encouraging" results, prompting further exploration in the area, a Philippine executive said late Tuesday.


Is alcohol the energy answer?

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out how to free America from the grip of high-priced oil imports. Or does it?

Rocket scientist Robert Zubrin lays out the case for an alcohol-based fuel economy in a new book titled "Energy Victory" – and although ethanol is the best-known alcohol replacement for gasoline, Zubrin focuses on a different brew called methanol, also known as wood alcohol.


BP to plead guilty to environmental crime

Opening the case to the public allowed prosecutors to release photos that further belie prior claims by the company.

In one, a 7-inch layer of dull black sludge cakes the bottom of a pipeline. Others show workers cleaning spills off the high-grassed tundra.

For years, the company denied allegations that a culture of cost-cutting was hurting the quality of maintenance on the network of steel pipes at the 30-year old field.

But after the spill in March, federal prosecutors said millions of company documents and interviews with scores of North Slope employees told a different story.


Pemex: Oil Leak Might Take Months to Fix

An oil platform leak that has spilled thousands of barrels of crude into the Gulf of Mexico could take several more months to repair, state oil monopoly Petroleos Mexicanos said Wednesday.

...A fire was still raging Wednesday at the damaged well, about 20 miles offshore from the port of Dos Bocas in the Gulf coast state of Tabasco, but only faint traces of crude could be seen shimmering on the water.


Bite of high oil prices only beginning

Think oil prices are high now? According to geologist Kenneth Deffeyes, we should be thankful for low oil prices. The really high prices are yet to come.


The End of Fossil Fuels - Global Considerations

We cannot escape the fact that fossil fuels, being finite resources, will run out! Our society depends on oil, natural gas, and coal, non-renewable sources of energy created thousands of years ago. The end of supply, and more than likely society as we know it, is inevitable. The question is not 'if' but 'when'. Current controversy about increasing consumption to meet our insatiable need for growth is ridiculous. Eventually we will have to accept the fact that the way we are currently living will have to change. The changes required will not be easy.


Brazil E&P Auction Leaves Oil Heavyweights Sidelined

Brazil's oil and gas exploration and production block auction Tuesday ended in a surprise. While it earned the government a record 2.1 billion reals ($1.1 billion), the big players in the country's oil industry were sidelined.

Oil majors such as Royal Dutch Shell PLC (RDSA) and Chevron (CVX) made no bids after the government withdrew the most promising blocks from the auction earlier this month. Those blocks are in Brazil's pre-salt area.


Australia: Petrol prices in record surge

BRISBANE is poised to break its record for the highest price of unleaded petrol – 138.9¢ a litre, set in August last year - and worse is to come.


Geothermal Power vs. Conventional Power Sources

Hands down, geothermal can beat coal, natural gas and uranium. Geothermal is more than competitive when it comes to price, such as cost per kilowatt-hour. There are no massive burner systems, no tall stacks, no rail lines or pipelines, no gigantic mines and processing facilities, essentially no air pollution, no toxic waste piles and long-term repositories.


The Impact of High-Priced Oil on Solar Manufacturers

Peak oil is what makes the solar stocks an opportunity of a lifetime. For those unfamiliar with peak oil theory, Dr. M. King Hubbert famously predicted in 1956 that U.S. oil production would peak in 1970. His theory was that when half of any given location's reserves were extracted production would begin to fall at about 2% annually, which is the same rate production has typically increased at.


Roadside Solar Panels New Theft Target

It seems that even crooks have jumped on the renewable energy bandwagon.

The Oregon State Police says about a half-dozen solar panels have been stolen in the past year from changeable message signs.


Scholars use art to study climate change

The vivid sunsets painted by J.M.W. Turner are revered for their use of color and light and for their influence on the Impressionists. But could they also help global warming experts track climate change?

A group of scientists has studied the colors in more than 500 paintings of sunsets, including many of Turner's 19th-century watercolors and oils, in hopes of gaining insights into the cooling effects caused by major volcanic eruptions.


U.S. officials plan only talk at UN meet

U.S. officials intend to push at next week's United Nations climate conference for a framework for further negotiations and said Wednesday they will make no commitment to specific reductions in greenhouse gas emissions.


Fever outbreak linked to climate change

An outbreak in Europe of an obscure disease from Africa is raising concerns that globalization and climate change are combining to pose a health threat to the West.

Nearly 300 cases of chikungunya fever, a virus that previously has been common only in Africa and Asia, were reported in Italy — where only isolated cases of the disease had been seen in the past.


US cuts greenhouse-gas emissions in 2006

The United States reduced greenhouse gas emissions in 2006 after four years of increases, the government said Wednesday ahead of a key United Nations meeting next week on climate change.


Climate change makes bats drop dead: study

Scorching heatwaves linked to climate change have caused thousands of Australian bats to drop dead after flapping their wings in a desperate bid to cool off, according to a study published Wednesday.


Fire shuts key Canada-US pipeline, oil soar

An explosion crippled the biggest pipeline supplying Canadian crude to U.S. Midwest refineries, shutting off more than one million barrels per day of imports to the world's biggest consumer.

The cause of the explosion on Wednesday that killed two employees was not immediately known.

... "The timing is pretty bad. We are coming to the strongest demand period for crude with the approach of the northern winter," said Mark Pervan of ANZ.

During the third quarter, the pipeline had carried around 1.5 million barrels per day of Canadian crude, or around 15 percent, of U.S. imports.

There was no word on when line 4, the biggest of the connected pipes, which ships nearly 700,000 barrels per day (bpd), would restart.


The Peak Oil Crisis: Revolt Of The Teapots

In China, small privately or locally owned oil refineries are called “teapots.” Unlike the giant ones that refine hundreds of thousands of barrels each day, these little fellows typically process about 10,000, but taken together, they produce some 10-15 percent of China’s refined products. Reduce the teapots’ production and you have a problem.


Analyst sees oil prices between $75, $85 a barrel

At a 2005 "peak oil" conference in Denver, Petrie said world oil production could peak between 2010 and 2015, with a subsequent gradual decline in oil supplies and higher prices.

"This is not a catastrophe," he said at the conference, "but the time to deal with it has come."


Intransigence in the face of energy crisis warnings

Chris Skrebowski, a former long-term planner for BP turned ‘peak oil’ theorist, who now edits the Petroleum Review, said, “I was extremely sceptical to start with,” but now admits, “We have enough capacity coming online for the next two-and-a-half years. After that the situation deteriorates.”


Vietnam to stop subsidizing oil price in 2008

Vietnam will stop subsidizing the prices of oil and petroleum products and some other industrial items such as coal and cement starting from next year, local newspaper Pioneer reported Thursday.


Currencies and oil: Countdown to lift-off

HARDLY a week goes by without a new reason to be gloomy about the dollar. The latest scare is that members of the oil-rich Gulf Co-operation Council (GCC) might loosen their links to the greenback, depriving the foreign-exchange markets of a reliable buyer of the troubled currency.


Venus inferno due to 'runaway greenhouse effect', say scientists

Once styled as Earth's twin, Venus was transformed from a haven for water to a fiery hell by an unstoppable greenhouse effect, according to an investigation by the first space probe to visit our closest neighbour in more than a decade.


Report: Global warming will cost Florida

TALLAHASSEE -- Stopping global warming. The melting of the Greenland ice cap. The slide of coastal property into the sea.

It's all going to cost Floridians a lot of money, but doing nothing will only cost more.

A new Finance Round-Up by ilargi has been posted at TOD:Canada.

March is when we realize that the dollar doesn't come back

Arlington Institute issues a Financial Alert based on M·CAM Analytics

The Chinese currency wild-card may become relevant far sooner than expected. An effort by China to convert its $1.4 trillion U.S. Treasury holdings into euros is not viable for many reasons -- not the least of which is the European Central Bank's inability to absorb such an event.

When February comes, the Chinese are going to do something as they will have to decide what the exposure is going to be with the treasury. As I see it they have to just dump the treasury. They only keep it because they can use it -- they have 43% direct/indirect of US treasuries so they'll dump them on the market.

OPEC price with the whole fluctuation of oil futures presages the event. They are going to run the price of oil as high as they can get it on the dollar, while buying US treasuries from China with the money. When the dollar does collapse, they'll flip denominations.

The wild card is long about March when the OPEC cuts spot oil off the dollar to the euro. One can look at the current oil price at close to $100/barrel and fail to see that, as this premium price is currently turning around and investing in a weakening dollar, the effective price (less the dollar investment hedge) is probably closer to $50/barrel than the spot price reflects. Currency problems will change the game -- they are financially structuring themselves to take the hit.

When we can't afford to buy oil commodities on a spot market -- it compounds the problem however the consumer that Saudi Arabia ships to is liquid (China). In the US it is a big problem. There is still a market for oil; it just changes.

When you come out of Straits of Hormuz, turn left.

An effort by China to convert its $1.4 trillion U.S. Treasury holdings

China doesn't have $1.4T in US Treasury holdings, so no such effort could exist.

The mistake that link is making is that it's taking China's total foreign reserves of $1.33T and imagining that they're all US Treasury. They're not even all US dollar. China's estimated US$ holdings are about $0.9T in all forms, of which Treasury holdings are only about half.

Or I suppose it's possible that link is taking the entire $1.44T of US Treasury debt held by all foreigners and somehow confusing "all foreigners" with "Chinese". That would be even weirder, though.

Yes, there is something wrong with those numbers, and there is something wrong with the analysis.

There has been a lot of discussion in the MSM about the US dollar losing its reserve currency status. No doubt, it should lose that status because the US has not behaved responsibly, but it is extremely difficult to shift from one reserve currency to another.

Treasuries throughout the world have US dollars. The US dollar is "legal tender" throughout the world. If the Argentines want to buy oil from Russia, they use US dollars. Russia would like Argentine to use Rubles, but Argentine doesn't have any Rubles to use. They have dollars.

There may be a gradual shift to Euros over time, but there simply are not enough Euros in the world. If the ECB were to print the Euros, they have to ensure that they are exported and remain exported. This is how Petrodollars, and to a great extent, Nikedollars work. The US buys on credit, printing money to pay for oil and cheap asian goods, while exporting the inflation, permanently.

It makes no sense for the Chinese, or any other sovereign wealth fund to "dump" US dollars. What makes far more sense is to go shopping, in the US.

What the Chinese want to buy from the US, more than anything else, is brand names, and patents. They don't like making 5 cents on the dollar making brand name products when they could make 50 cents if they owned the brand. They don't like being unable to make a good car for export, or making car engines under license with a hefty royalty, because they don't have the patents. These are things they are going to go shopping for.

Now is the time to start shopping. Citibank just sold 4.9% of itself at a huge discount (about $20/share) to the Middle East. That's Petrodollars coming back into the US.

The US is currently in a deflationary period. The credit crunch is a massive shrinking of the money supply. All those Petrodollars and Nikedollars can come back into the US without causing massive inflation. It can balance out.

It is important to never forget this one key fact. When a country exports "money," in what ever form, it is making a promise to provide equivalent goods and services some time in the future. Inflation at home is a way to reneg on the promise by devaluating the dollars abroad.

In this case, the US has miscalculated. It has caused a credit crunch at home (and world wide) which is deflationary. A lot of US assets are going to be for sale and those with liquid assets are coming shopping.

What is the full faith and credit standing behind the US dollar? Patents, brands, and if nothing else and I hate to say it, the National Forests and Wildlife Refuges. Its time to pay up.

If the ME can't ship as much oil to the US, then it will ship profits from American business back to the ME. If China can't ship as many running shoes and flat screen TVs to the US, then it will ship back a larger proportion of the profits.

The implications are discomforting. What does it feel like to live in a land where you don't own the means of production, and the profit is shipped overseas?

What does it feel like to live in a land where you don't own the means of production, and the profit is shipped overseas?

Possibly like a landless peasant in Tsar Nicholas's Russia?

Oooooh. Nasty implications there.

;)

Hi Mcgo,

Could you tell me what is meant in that article by this: - they have 43% direct/indirect of US treasuries

Don't worry, there are no foreign powers trying to install a revolutionary regime in the USA. Totally unlike Russia in 1917 where foreign backed agents such as Lenin and Trotsky seized the moment.

You're not counting Multinational corps, right?

Oh, wait, they're already in charge, I forgot.

"What does it feel like to live in a land where you don't own the means of production, and the profit is shipped overseas?"

The folks in the U.S. south are used to it....ask folks from states that have provided the U.S. with the power for the industrial revolution for over a century in the form of coal, but can't afford electric power to their own homes....don't believe it? Go to West Virginia, Eastern Kentucky, Eastern Tennessee or North Alabama....

The poorest states in the land have long provided wood for the paper and lumber mills, grain for the food makers and breweries, coal and natural gas for the power plants (gee, why hasn't the people of Louisiana profited from all of that natural gas?), and iron ore for the skyscrapers of the world.....

This is not a new thing, folks....it's just that the Yankee intellectuals are not used to the thought that it could happen to them....

RC

"...because the US has not behaved responsibly, but it is extremely difficult to shift from one reserve currency to another."

See the British Empire for details.

Scotland, Six Counties of Ireland, Wales and a
bunch of the Queen's "Tax Free Pirate" Islands scattered about the planet
are all that's left.

When it does balance out, the US will have paid all of it's
debts.

Or fractured. We have absolutely no intention of paying our debts.

We're all subprime now.

Depression by Christmas.

That is misleading though - it is not the case that there was no way that Britain could retain its empire. It is that the methods that would have been necessary to maintain the empire in terms of oppression were deemed no longer acceptable to the British so they chose instead to dismantle the empire.

It's easy to play it out that because empire is bad (it was) there Britain didn't make the better decision than it otherwise could have - not just in terms of self interest.

RA, I cannot agree with your take on the decline of the British Empire. I have quoted more likely scenarios below with link. At least GB was more realistic about their colonies than France. France attempted to retain Viet Nam and Algeria after WW2 and look what a mess came of those attempts.

http://en.allexperts.com/q/British-History-3243/British-empire.htm

'There are several reasons for the decline of the British Empire (fall sounds so sudden and dramatic, it was neither). They include a rise in Nationalism in the colonies of all the European powers after World War II. They saw their former masters weakened and bankrupt by the war and took the opportunity to agitate for independence. The ease in which India achieved it in 1947 encouraged the others. GB's industrial weakness after 1945 meant that financing the pre-war Empire was no longer possible, so the more important colonies were granted swift independence on favourable terms to ensure they remained friendly relations with their former Imperial masters.
Another theory is that after the war GB saw her future in Europe and took steps to divest herself of her Imperial responsibilities.
Another more controversial theory is that the undoubted world superpower after 1945, the USA, secretly encouraged the European colonies to demand their freedom so that the USA could develop new spheres of anti-Communism in Africa and Asia that she, and not GB, could control, believing GB to no longer have the strength to counter the spread of Communism.'

Depression by Christmas.

Riiiight, you realize Christmas is in 27 days? What will be your excuse when it doesn't happen? you realize every time you make a wrong prediction you lose credibility right?

Depression by Christmas.

Many people find the 'Christmas season' depressing.

So why would this statement be wrong?

you lose credibility

A topic you know all about by living it?

If you are able to forecast bouts of depression several weeks in advance you might want to get yourself to a doctor for a prescription of anti-depressants. They take a few weeks to kick in.

The US is currently in a deflationary period.

It could be argued deflation is already a global issue, not just limited to the U.S. The U.S., as always, just wants to be the biggest and the best so it’s going to run up the highest possible cliff, get to the top before anyone else gets to the top of their respective cliffs, and that way they can have the dubious honour of enjoying the longest ride down with the hardest sudden stop at the bottom. Won’t be a soft landing, despite the what Ben says.

The credit crunch is a massive shrinking of the money supply.

The money supply is currently relatively constant. The credit crunch is exactly what it says on the tin. Currently credit is contracting but money supply is remaining relatively constant (see Is the U.S. printing money like mad?).

Credit disappears in only one of two ways, it’s either paid off or written off. Right now, written off is accelerating and paid of is grinding to a halt.

hmm - the way i understood it - from the whole notion of fractional reserve banking, reduced credit and the repayment of credit DOES reduce the money supply...

Credit is not money. Money is money. The supply of money is not altered by the expansion or contraction of credit. Hence why in deflationary periods “cash is king”. Some measures of money supply, such as M2 and M3 for example, include credit transactions. But credit is not money. For a far better explanation than I could ever provide, see Is the U.S. printing money like mad?, and Money Supply and Recessions.

but there simply are not enough Euros in the world.

There’s a much bigger problem with the Euro than that, none of the Euro countries have relinquished their sovereignty to the EU. Not to mention one of the Euro eligible countries has decided to retain the Pound Sterling and its citizens would revolt if they were forced to adopt the Euro. The Euro is not the currency of a single sovereign nation, but is the currency of a collective. The members of this collective do have ways of leaving the Euro and there are growing factions in France and Germany that would very much like to see that happen. No one in their right mind is going to put their hopes in the currency of a non-sovereign entity as a reserve currency. What happens if one or two members of that collective decided they’ve had enough and return to the their national currencies?

The Euro will never be a reserve currency until the European Union is a sovereign nation ruled in Brussels. That will happen around the same time either Hell freezes over or the Second Coming has become obvious.

Great Post Goritas, I was trying to think of a way to explain this to some friends of mine, but this is a great way to do it, thanks.

You should be explaining the Amero to your buds.

Unless there is political union between Canada, Mexico, and the U.S., there will be no Amero. Since there will be no such political union, there will be no Amero.

There has been scuttlebutt about a two tier currency system for the U.S., with one currency for domestic use and another for international use. I can’t imagine that gaining much traction either.

There’s an awful lot of firepower in the hands of U.S. citizens. I can imagine any attempt to implement that above will see those weapons spending a lot less time in the gun cabinet.

I agree. The only way the Amero would gain any traction would be if there were first a complete collapse of the dollar.

Oh, wait...

Political union, and the "consent" of the masses, can be reached through economic shock treatments. You take the power out of the public's hands by inducing shock.

Just like many public systems were privatized in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina.

Just like personal freedoms were curtailed after 9/11.

Read "The Shock Doctrine" by Naomi Klein.

Canada is not the U.S. Mexico has suffered unending shock for decades, so most Mexicans wouldn't even notice.

If you actually believe political union for North America could be achieved by destroying its underlying economic structure, then I would have to disagree.

There would be little point in ruining that structure because it will take an awful lot of economic output to keep the masses in line, no matter how great the shock.

One thing we might want to keep in perspective is the sheer number of people we’re talking about here. “Fascism” in the 30s required far fewer inputs to fuel itself and had far fewer people to keep under control.

Revolts would happen all over the continent, overwhelming TPTB. Oaxaca would happen again under such a scenario and succeed simply because there would be more of the same throughout Mexico, in particular southern Mexico. There just wouldn’t be enough Federales to prevent it. The cartels would simply consolidate their holdings, particularly in the north.

There have been Canadian factions demanding independence for decades. What a wonderful opportunity to press ahead.

I, frankly, don’t believe North American political union is possible. Not now. Not ever. If it was, the EU would by now be a sovereign state. It is not. Neither will North America be.

Definitely agree.

The EURO is only a temporarily way point in currency juggling.

The EU (as is already evident) may have significant fallout from the Subprime USA problem, but also housing and credit bubbles of their own making.

However, the Yuan may be in an even worse position with even the BIS stating that they are in the exact position as the US before the Great Depression (see inflation, uncontrolled credit, massive expansion).

No Currency is a shoe in for the next petro-currency....hmmm...maybe Swiss Francs. Nah.

Guessing that we will be dropping down to a more (back to the) earthy economy. I would suggest the Dung as a future currency designation after TSHTF.

The Euro will never be a reserve currency until the European Union is a sovereign nation ruled in Brussels. That will happen around the same time either Hell freezes over or the Second Coming has become obvious.

That's got nothing to do with. What really counts is what exporters are willing to accept as a currency for goods they sell. A lot of exporters already accept Euros (as well as other currencies) for payment. The currency that is most used for international trade is currency becomes the world's reserve currency.

If the US continues on its path, more and more exporters will accept payment in other currencies, eventually one currency will win over the rest and eventually become the worlds reserve currency. It could be the Euro, the Yuan or even the Canadian Loonie ("In Duck we trust!").

but there simply are not enough Euros in the world.

That's also got nothing to do with it. When demand for a currency rises, the value of the currency rises (the prices of goods exchange fall in price). More currency can be printed if desired. This is what is already happening to the Euro, as more countries are willing to accept Euros for payment, is value versus other currencies will continue to strenghten.

FWIW: Over the long term, the Euro probably doesn't fair any better than the USD. Most of the EU has embraised expensive socialistic programs and has low natural resources. I can't say whether or not the Euro or any other currency has a good chance of become the next reserve currency. All I can say that if the US does not change fiscal and monitary policies soon, the dollar risks losing its status as the worlds economy. Their may be a period where dollar is officially considered the reserve currency, but exporters decline USD over the of the major currencies. Already several OPEC members not accept payment in other currencies. This will like continue in the future and more exporters will also adopt this strategy.

As it stands, most exporters now have dollar surpluses that they must hold onto rather than use them to support their own economic development. In the past it was in the exporters interests to fix their own currency to the dollar (aka dollar peg) so they could increase exports in built up their economy. Now it no longer makes sense because holding dollars is retarding economic development as the prices of imports are rising, but the value of exports declines with the declining value of the dollar. No economy can afford to export goods if their input costs exceed the value of their exports.

I think the only way that the US can reverse the trend is to start raising interest rates and adopt fiscally responsible policies. Personally I don't see this happening until after a crisis. The FED still thinks that cutting rates is the answer to the credit crunch, but in fact cutting rates is making it worse because foriegn investors (with available capital) are losing faith in the dollar. FED rate cuts are not going to bring back Subprime lending nor is it going to restore lost jobs in real estate, auto, travel, etc. Banks and investors will continue to tighen their lending as the risks of lending continue to rise, even if the FED drops rates to Zero. If you believe the borrow has a significant chance of defaulting, or the value of the asset is going to fall, your simply not going to lend your money. What is likely to happen is that investors (both domestic and foriegn) will look outside of the US were the risks are lower.

Well, here's a different perspective for you. Needless to say, I totally disagree with your position.

Eurozone Dilemma

The credit crunch could crush the euro

The implications are discomforting. What does it feel like to live in a land where you don't own the means of production, and the profit is shipped overseas?

Ask a New Zealander. A combination of stock market crash and fire-sale liquidation of state assets in the 1980s brought about exactly that result.