DrumBeat: November 30, 2007


OPEC Countries Will Rival China in 08 Oil Demand Growth

OPEC countries will rival China in global oil demand growth through 2008 and beyond, according to a report released Friday by investment firm Lehman Brothers Inc. (LEH).

Consumption of oil in countries that are members of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries should grow 4.4% to 370,000 barrels per day in 2008, putting the producer group behind only China in terms of incremental demand growth, according to the report.

$100 oil fades fast

The prospect of $100 a barrel oil is evaporating as fast as it was conjured.

The commodity, which nine days ago was less than a dollar away from $100, is on Friday at less than $90, tumbling on the reality that oil supplies are adequate and that Saudi Arabia will likely fight for an OPEC production increase at a meeting next week to push the price lower so sagging demand for the product might rebound.


Peak Oil Passnotes: Work Those OPECs!

It is amazing how the march of time dulls the minds of people who are otherwise extremely smart, and OPEC ministers too. Each year over the past three years, 2004, 2005, 2006 and now 2007 we have seen prices top their current range in the third and fourth quarters of the year. This year has proved no exception with NYMEX crude oil hitting $99.11 in trading last week.

In 2004, OPEC still thought that we would return to its $22 - $28 per barrel price range; at least that is what it said it thought. In reality OPEC probably did not have a clue which way the oil price would go, it just said that for political reasons, and today is much the same.


The First Days Of Petro Collapse

At the moment it seems likely that oil production peaked about 2006, although production per capita peaked around 1990. (Yes, the politicians had their 100-year forecasts back in the 1950s, bless their little souls, but they never said a word.) The first sign, as Jay Hanson predicted several years ago, is stagflation: a combination of high prices and high unemployment. When the price of oil goes up, so does the price of everything else. Before 1970, economists claimed that a combination of high prices and high unemployment was impossible. One economic factor was supposed to cancel out the other. But then came the Arab oil embargo, and stagflation was exactly what happened. The same is happening right now. Much of it is hidden, of course. No sane editor is going to allow a journalist to say that the economy is going belly up.


Peak Oil: Dependence On Imports Has Consequences

Worse, exports are severely constrained by increasing demand inside the exporting nations themselves. As oil production declines in an exporting country, exports are severely curtailed to meet citizen demands within the exporting country. Typically what happens, as in the case of Britain’s North Sea oil, is that this causes actual exports to drop to zero with startling rapidity, as Governments cater to the energy needs of their own citizens. Thus British exports peaked at 1.3 million barrels per day in 1999, but only seven years later, in 2006, Britain had become a net importer These demand constraints on export availability are likely to be especially pronounced in Russia, the UAE, Iran, Mexico and Venezuela.


Does Our Energy Future Hinge on Iran?

Oil is likely behind our saber-rattling with Iran. But can military action in the Middle East actually work to secure oil for U.S. interests?


The End of the 2007 Hurricane Season Is Here

As the Gulf of Mexico's 2007 hurricane season draws to a close on November 30, the industry squeaks by with relatively little production disruption.


Study Details How U.S. Could Cut 28% of Greenhouse Gases

The United States could shave as much as 28 percent off the amount of greenhouse gases it emits at fairly modest cost and with only small technology innovations, according to a new report.

A large share of the reductions could come from steps that would more than pay for themselves in lower energy bills for industries and individual consumers, the report said, adding that people should take those steps out of good sense regardless of how worried they might be about climate change. But that is unlikely to happen under present circumstances, said the authors, who are energy experts at McKinsey & Company, the consulting firm.


EPA: Violations at Indiana BP Refinery

Federal regulators say BP PLC violated the Clean Air Act by making several unapproved changes at its Indiana oil refinery along the Lake Michigan shore, significantly boosting emissions.


We need a Manhattan Project to bust up OPEC

The president has made it clear that he's none too fond of this Congress. So why not up the ante and use his office's bully pulpit to mobilize the scientific and technology communities to a real call to arms. Such as? How about the equivalent of a Manhattan Project to bust up OPEC?


Nigerian forces torch illegal petroleum

Troops patrolling the militant-infested waterways of Nigeria's oil producing region torched two barges Friday after the boats were found transporting stolen petroleum products, police said.


OPEC could lift oil output at UAE meet - Nigeria

OPEC oil exporters could decide to raise output at next week's meeting in the United Arab Emirates and have some spare production capacity to do so, Nigeria's oil minister said on Friday.

However, recent volatility in the oil market demonstrates that prices are being driven by factors other than oil supply and therefore OPEC has been right to adopt a "wait-and-see" approach to market moves, Odein Ajumogobia told Reuters in an interview.


Solar showdown in Congress

With Congress back in session, renewable energy proponents are girding for a battle over legislation that could make or break the nascent solar power industry.


Most (and least) cost-effective hybrids

How much it costs to save a gallon of gas varies widely, even among closely-related vehicles.


Enbridge traces fatal oil pipeline fire to pinhole leak fixed weeks ago

The small leak had been fixed with a repair sleeve earlier this month.

On Wednesday, workers shut down the line to remove the three-metre section that included the hole and sleeve. They replaced it with a new section of pipeline, but oil apparently leaked where that joined the old line, said Leon Zupan, Enbridge's vice-president of operations.

The company's metallurgists want to analyze the section to better understand why it leaked, said Enbridge spokesman Larry Springer. Electronic tools were put inside the pipeline in 2006 looking for dents and metal loss.

"There were no problems found in that area where the leak occurred," he said.


UK Coryton refinery fire-hit unit still shut

A fire at Swiss company Petroplus' Coryton refinery in southeast England in October is continuing to have significant impact on production at the plant, the Health and Safety Executive said on Friday.

The unit damaged by the fire at the 220,000 barrel a day plant remains closed and an investigation into the causes of the incident on October 31 is continuing, the HSE told Reuters.


Iraq to sell 300,000 bpd Kirkuk oil in term deals

Iraq has allocated about 300,000 barrels per day of Kirkuk crude in term deals to 11 firms starting Jan. 1, an Iraqi oil official said on Friday.

The deals reflect more reliable flows via Iraq's pipeline to Turkey, which has been idled by sabotage attacks and technical problems for much of the time since the U.S.-led invasion in March 2003.


Ukraine will have to pay more for Russian gas

Gazprom is likely to raise gas prices for Ukraine in 2008.

On November 27, the Russian energy giant agreed to buy Turkmenistan's gas at a higher price, and this sparked the rumor that the gas price for Ukraine would be raised since Gazprom resells Turkmen gas to Ukraine.


Entire world has vital stake in China's energy challenge

A major new report just released by the International Energy Agency (IEA) sheds stark light on one of the reasons why global oil prices are approaching an unprecedented $100 a barrel. The report provides truly stunning new details of the looming global impact of China and India on future energy markets and the prospects for climate change. It also brings a sobering clarity to the enormity of the energy challenge these two countries face and the huge stake the world has in their future energy choices.


There's Oil in That Slime

Some varieties of algae are as much as 50 percent oil, and that oil can be converted into biodiesel or jet fuel. The biggest challenge is slashing the cost of production, which by one Defense Department estimate is running more than $20 a gallon.


Ethanol E85 fuel loses cost-benefit test to diesel

Anything's better than ethanol blend E85, even ordinary gasoline, a new cost-benefit analysis of alternative fuels by researcher John Graham at the Pardee Rand Graduate School finds.

Diesels scored highest, surprising even the researchers. "We were kind of expecting that hybrids would outperform diesels when we went into the study. It's close, but the advanced diesel" provides better performance and fuel economy for the price, he says.


Important US Oil Complex Vulnerable to A Terrorist Attack

In early October, speculators, concerned about the dip in inventories at Cushing (currently, inventories are at the lowest since October, 2005), drove the price of a barrel of oil up to a then record $83. Conversely, when Cushing’s massive tank farms are filled, crude oil prices tend to plummet. What happens at Cushing has a marked impact on the global oil economy. A terrorist attack on the complex would have a profound impact on North America, and the ripples from it would spread throughout the world.


Seeking Alternatives

Experts can argue about the date, but from the global point of view it is obvious that the whole world, including Russia, will have to switch to alternative and renewable energy sources one way or another, because limited resources, no matter how large their supply is, will eventually be exhausted. This fact has been acknowledged and accepted by the scientific and technical community, by state authorities, by businessmen and common citizens. Even popular rock musician Yury Shevchuk has a song entitled “When We’re All Out of Oil.” Finally people other than ecologists and environmentalists are talking about renewable energy in Russia. Scientific and technological conferences and round tables are being organized at all levels and the press is also participating in the discussion of possibilities of alternative energy sources.


Kurds challenge Kirkuk oil rights

While the semi-autonomous Iraqi Kurdish administration and the central government in Baghdad are locked in a war of words on the right to issue oil prospecting contracts in the Erbil, Sulaimania and Duhok provinces the Kurds have increased the stakes demanding oil rights in the Kirkuk area which is outside their jurisdiction.

An incident which surfaced on Tuesday when Iraqi Oil Minister Hussain al-Shahristani announced "soldiers from the Kurdistan autonomous region are preventing the central government from developing a key Kirkuk oil field" has added to the already cool relations between Baghdad and the Iraqi Kurds.


Nepal: Fuel shortage cripples public transport in far west

Public transport in the far-western region has come to a grinding halt since yesterday due to fuel shortage.

Reports coming in say that bus service in far-western districts has been shut with the transporters announcing indefinite strike against the shortage of petrol and diesel.


Fidel Castro: "A People Under Fire"

Cuban President Fidel Castro stated that the assassination of Venezuela's leader or a civil war in that country would blow up the globalized world economy, due to its huge reserves of hydrocarbons.

In his Friday's article entitled "A People Under Fire," the Cuban Revolution leader says that such circumstances are without precedent in the history of mankind.


Assembly of Oil and Gas Companies Owners Decide to Stop Receiving Daily Fuel in Gaza Strip

The Assembly of oil and gas companies owners in the Gaza Strip decided Thursday evening to stop receiving their daily fuel in protest at Israel reduction of the quantity of fuel sent to Gaza.


Sinopec, CNPC told to run at full speed

China has ordered its two largest oil companies to run their refineries at full capacity in a further move to address a fuel shortage.

The National Development and Reform Commission and the Ministry of Finance have asked Sinopec Group and China National Petroleum Corp to fulfill their social responsibility to ensure market supply of refined oil products, the commission said in a statement posted on its Website yesterday.


6 price manipulation cases uncovered amid oil shortage

China's top economic planning agency said on Wednesday that 6 diesel price manipulation cases had been found in a nationwide inspection amid fuel supply shortages.

These six petrol filling stations sold diesel at prices 43% higher than the government-regulated price to cash in on ongoing fuel shortages, according to the National Development and Reform Commission (NDRC).


Turkey: Gov’t pledges unprecedented energy incentives

The government, concerned about a recent supply shortage in electricity, has pledged to introduce unprecedented incentives for the energy sector.


Naomi Klein - Guns Beat Green: The Market Has Spoken

Anyone tired of lousy news from the markets should talk to Douglas Lloyd, director of Venture Business Research, a company that tracks trends in venture capitalism. "I expect investment activity in this sector to remain buoyant," he said recently. His bouncy mood was inspired by the money gushing into private security and defense companies. He added, "I also see this as a more attractive sector, as many do, than clean energy."

Got that? If you are looking for a sure bet in a new growth market, sell solar, buy surveillance; forget wind, buy weapons.


Climate plan will cost consumers plenty

The op ed by William Becker concludes that finding a cure for global warming will be easy and won’t needlessly or excessively increase energy costs. If that is true, then there is a certain bridge in Brooklyn available at a bargain basement price.


Winter tales become horror stories

One elderly man who called Midcoast Maine Community Action told receptionist Candy Downs that he was keeping warm by staying under the covers of a bed and running a hair dryer.


Saudi Aramco inaugurates new storage sites

Al-Buainain enumerated the benefits of placing strategic-reserve locations throughout the Kingdom. The added storage capacity, he said, supports the distribution of fuel in the Kingdom, where and when it is needed. That has been proved in some locations when local market requirements have been met during seasonal and emergency circumstances. Strategic storage also provides operational efficiency and greater flexibility in normal circumstances, and helps in the scheduling of refinery maintenance, which can be done without causing fuel shortages.


Power play: The dirty little secrets behind the pressure at the pumps

Former U. S. Senator Frank Lautenberg of New Jersey uncovered evidence that President George W. Bush agreed to a secret deal with Saudi Prince Bandar bin Sultan to help the president win the election in November 2004. The alleged deal allowed high oil prices for most of 2004 in return for a boost in oil production and lower gas prices in the three months immediately prior to the November election. But the problem is not just political and does not rest only with price manipulation in the crude market. It’s in the industry and the core of the problem is manipulation of refining capacity.


We Welcome Our New Overlords From Asia

America is more concerned about taxing big oil, while other governments are doing their best to acquire it and subsidize the costs for their own citizens.


Energy CEOs make their case

OKLAHOMA CITY -- CEOs of four Oklahoma energy companies encouraged state leaders Thursday to support polices that encourage the responsible use of fossil fuels and promote exploration and production.


Siberia basking in the oil boom

It used to serve principally as a place of exile for political dissidents.

But now, suddenly, Khanty-Mansiisk - 1,400 miles east of Moscow, in north-western Siberia - has become Vladimir Putin's model town, the place Russia most wants to show off to foreign visitors.


ConocoPhillips proposes Alaska pipeline

Oil exploration and production company ConocoPhillips said Friday it submitted a proposal to develop a pipeline in Alaska that would transport about 4 billion cubic feet per day of natural gas to the United States and Canada.

The company said it is "prepared to make significant investments, without state matching funds, to advance this project."


Despite efforts, China still unable to wean off coal

In the heart of rapidly modernising Beijing, pensioner Zeng Qinglun and his wife have stacked up a pile of coal outside their home to use for heating and cooking through the winter.

The couple, who live in a tiny house in one of the Chinese traditional "hutong" alleyways, would love to use a cleaner fuel but can not afford it on their meagre incomes.


Analysis: Asia likely to remain dependent on coal

New research by the World Wide Fund for Nature highlights three negative effects of the heavy dependence on coal as an energy source in Asia. These include social distress, environmental degradation and carbon dioxide emissions that accelerate global warming.


A dirty way to fight climate change

Switch to compact fluorescent light bulbs and plant a tree – these are the most popular strategies for mitigating climate change today.

Yet world leaders gathering for the climate-change summit in Bali, Indonesia, next week should consider an alternative. It's one of the most overlooked yet most effective and inexpensive strategies available: Store carbon in the soil.


‘Averting Our Eyes’: James Hansen’s New Call for Climate Action

James E. Hansen of NASA, brushing off coal-industry criticisms but acknowledging the need to be sensitive to people still haunted by the Holocaust, has elaborated on what he meant when he recently described continued coal burning as akin to sending untold species to their destruction in “death trains” and crematoria.


Abu Dhabi Becomes Largest Citigroup Shareholder with $7.5B Investment, Bailout Comes Amidst Subprime Mortgage Crisis, Record-High Oil Prices (audio, video, and transcript)

The Gulf Arab emirate of Abu Dhabi bought a $7.5 billion stake in Citigroup, America’s largest bank, on Tuesday, making it the bank’s largest shareholder. As the U.S. credit crisis worsens and the price of oil hovers close to $100 a barrel, the injection of capital from oil-rich Gulf states is seen as a bailout of banks in trouble. We speak with NYU economics professor, Nouriel Roubini, and Hampshire College professor, Michael Klare, author of “Blood and Oil.”


Iran could choke flow of oil to world in case of war - but it would hurt itself by doing so

Iran's potential to shut down nearly 40 percent of the world's oil trade represents a weapon possibly more powerful than its missiles, gunboats or any arms system Tehran claims to possess.

But such a move would cut both ways in any possible military showdown with the United States.


Oil prices drop below $90 a barrel

Oil prices fell Friday on expectations that OPEC will increase output next week and on fading concerns of a supply disruption from a U.S. pipeline fire.

Light, sweet crude for January delivery fell $1.55 to $89.46 a barrel in electronic trading on the New York Mercantile Exchange by midday in Europe. On Thursday, the crude contract gained 39 cents to settle at $91.01 a barrel in choppy trade.


Ecologist lectures on implications of 'A World Without Oil'

According to Kaufmann the days of "eat, drink and gas up" are coming to a close quickly. The oil problem is a well-worn topic of conversation in America today due to high gas prices and war. However, the reason the nation is looking at a scarcity of oil is not political.

"Two-thirds of the world's top oil producing nations have reached their peak in oil production," Kaufman said. "The height of world discovery of oil wells took place in the 1960s. Since 1983 production has exceeded discovery. For every 30 million barrels of oil that are produced only 6 million are discovered."


Gazprom considering selling gas in rubles

Russian gas export monopoly Gazprom's deputy chairman said on Thursday the company is considering selling its gas and oil in rubles, instead of dollars or euros.


A Diary Of The Onset Of The Greater Depression

For years I have been referring to the Terminal Triangle: Peak Oil, climate change, and global economic meltdown, the latter explained in Danny's book in terms of the international ramifications of the Greater Depression. And of course, there are "other horsemen" of the apocalypse, as enumerated by Sally Erickson in her recent blog, so I find it impossible to discuss the mortgage crisis without connecting it with the additional impending global catastrophes that spell the end of the world as we have known it. Just as we have entered the Greater Depression, we are engulfed by collapsing institutions - especially the American political system, which are in an abject state of dissolution and therefore incapable of affecting change at requisite levels, for all the reasons Danny has so thoroughly documented in his book.


Nigeria: Rising Fuel Subsidy Worries Government

Another increase in the pump price of petrol may be under way given the strident concern being expressed by top government functionaries over the rising price of crude oil in the international market and what they call the concomitant rise in government subsidy on petroleum products.


Refinery company will ask for zoning change

ELK POINT, S.D. - A Texas company that's considering construction of an oil refinery in Union County are planning to ask for zoning changes on land north of Elk Point.


Petro-Canada CEO: Arctic LNG Would be a Project 'To Die For'

Petro-Canada's (PCZ) natural gas assets in the Arctic would be a dream liquefied natural gas project, but regulatory and technical hurdles means it is still a long way off from development, Chief Executive Ron Brenneman said Wednesday.

The company has significant natural gas reserves in the Eastern Arctic islands, but lack of a fiscal regime and the harsh operating environment means "it's too early to visualize what (a project) might look like," Brenneman said at an investors conference in Edmonton.


WoodMac: $70 Is the New $30

Wood Mackenzie says higher oil prices are offsetting the greater challenges faced by companies who explore for oil and gas - but only just. In analysis recently completed as part of Wood Mackenzie's Exploration Service, the average return on exploration for conventional hydrocarbons in the past three years was just under 15% - assuming that oil prices remain at US$70 per barrel in real terms.


Transportation Matters

One choice we can make is to build as if everyone drives and will always drive. This, of course, assumes that human behavior never changes (a difficult assumption to make, given the historical shift in Alameda over the past half-century or so from rail/transit to single-occupancy-vehicles as our primary transportation mode). I'd put money on the fact that various forces -- technology, diminishing land for increased road capacity, peak-oil, environmental concerns, to name just a few -- will see our transportation behavior continue to evolve.

Which brings us to the other direction the city can go: Plan new areas of the city to accommodate many options and work to create convenient and flexible solutions that will accommodate transportation changes. We should expect that, 25 to 35 years from now, a lot of people will be traveling in a different way than they do today, much as they did 25 to 35 years ago.


Will Saudi Arabia Boost Its Oil Output on Dec 5th?

Already, the Western media is fanning speculation of a boost in Saudi oil output at the upcoming OPEC meeting in Abu Dhabi, to placate its military patron in Washington and cool oil prices. Within OPEC, Saudi Arabia is the only producer with any capacity to pump more oil. Saudi oil chief, Ali al-Naimi indicated the kingdom had spare oil capacity of 2.3 million bpd. Total OPEC spare capacity is 3 million bpd.

On Nov 21st, former Saudi oil minister Ahmed Zaki Yamani was engaging in psychological warfare with crude oil traders, attempting to “jawbone” oil prices lower. “If there are no disasters, then oil prices could fall to $75 per barrel after the winter,” he said. Already, crude oil has tumbled to $91.50 /bl on expectations that Riyadh will boost its oil output by 500,000 bpd. How myopic have equity traders become, now that $91 for oil is considered cheap, after seeing $99 last week?


Middle class angst: The politics of lemmings, part 2

The deepest fear in suburbia, never spoken aloud, is that when this epoch unravels, Suburbia's citizens quite simply will not know how to survive. Even the veterans of war who withdraw back into these spaces are largely incapable of the most basic skills that will be required in a non-technocratic world: building healthy soil, making food, collecting potable water, basic medicine . . . seed-saving, canning, pickling and fermenting . . . all lost; and so Suburbia will fight tooth and nail for its "entitlement to the entropo-technocratic life-support system, even as that system withers away.

Instead, our masculinized version of any post-collapse -- which we have compartmentalized into a "fantasy" that cannot be touched by our day-to-day -- is what we have borrowed from direct and vicarious experience of the military . . . a Mad Maxish world of roaming armed conflict. This will never happen.

The real choice that Suburbia will face is one between fascism or self-sufficiency, which is a choice -- as well -- between spiritual death or spiritual renewal.


China's Green Spending Falls Short

The good news out of China is that the People's Republic will be spending $200 billion on cleaning up the air and water pollution that has marred its rapid economic growth. The bad news is that sum is virtually unchanged from the last budget and is unlikely to make a difference.


U.S. Government to Distribute $1 Billion to Protect Shoreline Environments

U.S. Secretary of the Interior Dirk Kempthorne today applauded federal approval of Louisiana's Coastal Impact Assistance Program, calling it a major step forward in providing up to $1 billion over four years to help Outer Continental Shelf oil and gas producing states restore and protect their shoreline environments.


Business leaders seek action on warming

Some of the world's top business leaders are demanding that international diplomats meeting next week come up with drastic and urgent measures to cut greenhouse gas pollution at least in half by 2050.

Officials from more than 150 global companies — worth nearly $4 trillion in market capitalization — have signed a petition urging "strong, early action on climate change" when political leaders meet in Indonesia.


Rich nations must do more on climate change: Prince Charles

The world's haves must do more to combat climate change, Prince Charles and a former World Bank chief economist wrote in separate comment pieces published on Friday.


Climate change: "Carbon footprint" enters everyday vocabulary

Buying locally-produced fruit and veg, riding bikes or taking the train instead of using private cars, buying carbon offsets and staging carbon-neutral weddings: all are part of the climate-change awareness taking root in many countries.

Individuals keen on reducing their "carbon footprint" -- the dangerous greenhouse gas that each of us emit through our purchases and activities -- can now turn to a multiplying panoply of tools to calculate their pollution, reduce it or compensate for it.


Bush clings to anti-Kyoto stance ahead of climate talks

US President George W. Bush, who rejected the Kyoto protocol, remains opposed to international constraints on curbing carbon emissions despite growing isolation ahead of a world climate summit.

Light, sweet crude for January delivery fell $1.55 to $89.46 a barrel in electronic trading on the New York Mercantile Exchange by midday in Europe.

The range of oil prices in the past year emphasizes that we are well within the peak oil era, charactarized by growing volitility of oil prices.

The following one-minute video illustrates why...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7vGDwGLU7s

Every bit of news that talks about supply or demand, even in an oblique way, will cause the prices to swing.

Contrast this to the point a few years ago when we first entered the peak oil era (from about June 2003 to March 2004), which was charactarized by almost no volatility at all, as oil prices very slowly shifted from the former "stable price trend" to the new "increasing price trend".

The volatility will continue until we have a big drop in consumption, or a big rise (unlikely) in production.

Yes, I agree volatility is to be expected if we're at peak. Still, Moe_Gamble though $90 was the floor. Not today, it would seem.

Ya...we need some more bad news to lower the price some more. If there is any kind of logic involved in crude prices and the DOW these days...it alludes me.

Interesting bit on The President's Working Group on Financial Markets...

Mission Impossible

Two of my favorite columns over at Financial Sense, Deepcaster and Nyquist Column, with some interesting reads today...

PROFITING FROM INTERVENTIONALS + TECHNICALS + FUNDAMENTALS IN GOLD, EQUITIES, CRUDE OIL & THE U.S. DOLLAR

I love the term "Interventionals" he uses.

Political Philosophy 101

I wouldn't say that the price is totally out of step with logic. I got some data from:

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/international/Crude1.xls

and started making graphs.

Average oil price this year to date (11mths) is $69.54
Average oil price in 1998 was $14.36

thats about 19% YOY inflation.

However if you use 1998 $'s against a few other currencies (napkin calculations here) then this years agerage oil price is roughtly $48

thats about 14%YOY inflation.

Doesn't seem so bad now!

Also, if you look at historical prices, you could say that the oil price is not even adjusted to 1980 after inflation until it approaches $200 a barrel. (rough factoring of USD declines as it approaches)

And, Gold as well would need to get to around $2300 an ounce to approach all time highs. (possibly more as the USD declines as well). Historically, Gold would trade about 10X the price of oil...behind the ball at the moment.

A question:

If the cost of oil production is higher than 1980, and production is near maximum. Also, if population is increasing which also increases demand (met or unmet).

How much longer before the inflation adjusted peaks are met and exceeded?

Well...the words of Don Sailorman have haunted me ever since he wrote them way back when...and I am quoting from memory...he said that the Fed has lots of tools to help the situation and they aren't afraid to use them.

I think he's right, the Fed does have lots of tools. Some we know about and some we don't (see my link above). I think the Fed is and will do everything in their power to keep money, credit, and commodity prices within "acceptable" ranges for the masses. How long this can keep going? Perhaps only Don knows, but he no longer posts here so.

The Fed will, of course, play every short-term financial trick they can think up. Aside from interest rate cuts, I expect a lot of glowing financial rhetoric and creative accounting.

In the long run, these tactics can only do so much. However, the last card that the USA can (and will) play is a fire sale of assets. The opening shot last week was the sale of about 5% of Citibank to Abu Dhabi. Fortune has a good article on how this trend will likely accelerate in the near future:

A stake in Citi is just the start

regards,
Oz

that old Arab saying:

My grandfather rode a camel, my father rode a camel, I drive a Mercedes, my son drives a Land Rover, his son will fly a jet, but his son will ride a yankee (and own half of America).

by Rashid bin Saeed Al Maktoum

Amended last line slightly.

Yankees are easy to keep. They believe everything.

;-)

Dubya to the rescue:

Banks, U.S. near deal on subprime mortgages

The Bush administration is working behind the scenes with industry on a plan to extend lower, introductory interest rates on home loans before they reset at higher levels amid hints by Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke of another cut in a key interest rate to keep the economy from falling into recession.

Extended out to Nov 5th 2008? By any chance:-).

Marco.

It's not a permanent fix, but this is what the article says:

Instead of permanently changing the terms of loans, the Bush administration’s plan is likely to allow teaser rates to be extended for five to seven years. That could give borrowers enough of a breather to shore up their finances and ultimately refinance into traditional, 30-year fixed-rate loans.

Sounds like he's allowing enough time for President Giuliani to pass the buck to his successor. Of course, by then it will be a problem for the Bank of Dubai, which will own Citibank, Countrywide, Bank of America and Wachovia.

regards,
Oz

The basic problem although this proposal has many is that the homeowner cannot sell the home without going through a short sale. Few people buy one home for 30 years. Most first time buyers sell within 5-7 years and most of the people in trouble are first time buyers.

http://www.selectlenders.com/first_time_buyer.asp

The chances that houses will be back to todays prices in 5-7 years is slim to none. And for a lot of these people they either will need to short sell or go into foreclosure. Also of course these people where not your general qualified buyer in the first place so chances are they will need to move sooner then the average say 2-3 years.

You can imagine that a lot of people will figure this out and mortgage backed securities are dead not just existing ones but all future ones without a explicit government guarantee and that might not be enough.

So if enough people get save its going to keep the housing market down for years well past the time even the biggest optimist thinks we will be having peak oil effects. And of course the plan if its implement at all will have a immediate cooling effect on the ability to get new house loans.

Plus obviously people left out will walk once their arm resets or at least quit paying to see if they can get the deal probably leading to foreclosure.

Whats probably going to happen considering the intellegince of your average American is that if the plan is allowed to proceed a whole lot of people are going to quit paying their mortgage assuming they will be bailed out without even determining if they can be. I could see this backfiring fast.

Chimp/Matt has a link on his site to http://www.thecottageeconomist.com This isn't the link to the exact article but I assume people can get there. Anyway, the arguement is that the institutions can make more profit foreclosing after 5-7 years. The guy makes a good case.

Todd

The problem is with our crop of subprime borrowers your looking at 1-3 years before they bail on average. If they are even smart enough to get the exception. And of course practically everyone rejected is going to bail and these are the people with better credit. This coupled with people trying to game the system by stopping payments in hope of qualifying will probably result in a higher foreclosure rate.

Most people don't know who owns their mortgage. Overall these are not the sharpest tools in the shed your talking about.

So at best this will result in about the same foreclosure rate as without it and worst it could significantly increase the foreclosure rate.

The smarter folks that probably actually have more money will figure out they are better off taking the credit hit now and saving to buy a home in seven years.

I'm actually surprised these guys figured they could get enough people to stay 5-7 years esp heading into a recession. This is the critical part of the plan. These people had planned if anything around a 1-2 year quick flip.

And what about all the investor owned homes ?

I get a kick out of some people actually liking this monster.

I don't necessarily agree (don't disagree entirely either) with Don.

However, the number of variables in play is much much more than ANY Fed Chair has EVER had to deal with.

Damned if he does, Damned if he doesn't(insert option here). No move is correct anymore. Far too many masters. IMHO.

'State freezes fund pool after run by local governments'

'"We can make payroll, but the fact is the purpose of that system is to help us move our money in and out and at any given time -- 24 hours a day," Blanton said. "Right now they have frozen that ability."'

http://www.news-journalonline.com/NewsJournalOnline/News/Headlines/frtHE...

Here is the story of a run on a state fund pool by various governments of the State of Florida. From this mornings front page of the Daytona Beach News Journal. I believe that the governor of Florida, along with the rest of the government and the citizens of Florida would like a bit more reassurance that the Fed can 'stop the sub-prime crisis from spreading to the rest of the economy'...An oft heard refrain from those that continually trumpet the powers of the Fed to 'fix everything'. An item of interest that is left out of this report? Some pension and other funds are required by law to invest only in the highest rated debt instruments...

'Staff and wire report

Gov. Charlie Crist and two other top state officials suspended withdrawals from a state-operated investment pool Thursday, abruptly halting a run by local governments spooked over the downgrade of its mortgage-related holdings.'...snip...

'The State Board of Administration acted during an emergency meeting after local governments had taken out nearly $10 billion, or 40 percent of the pool's assets, in the past two weeks. That included $3.5 billion Thursday morning.'...snip...

'Local governments in Volusia County alone have pulled hundreds of millions of dollars from the fund. Flagler County government had no money in the fund.'...snip...

'(Governor) Crist and the other board members, Chief Financial Officer Alex Sink and Attorney General Bill McCollum, were worried that without suspending withdrawals, the pool would run out of money because of the downgraded assets. That would leave the last local governments in the pool with nothing.'...snip...

'Stipanovich proposed using the state's $137 billion pension fund to secure the downgraded paper, but board members were cool to that idea. They voted instead to seek advice from outside financial experts before considering the proposal again Tuesday.

"It's something that, speaking for myself, I'm not excited about," Sink said.'...snip...

'Stipanovich said there would be little risk to the pension plan because the downgraded paper is backed by highly rated mortgages that continue to return millions of dollars in premiums and interest to investors. Their market value, though, has plummeted because investors are shunning all mortgage-related securities due to losses on subprime mortgages.

Even if they do default, the pension fund would receive the mortgages as collateral and they would continue to pay off, Stipanovich said. He said they also should regain their market value, although that could take years.'...snip...

River

Ya I saw that story yesterday and posted it on the Stoneleigh's Finance post. This kind of thing is frickin scary and will most likely hit other States in the near future. I think California is already wrestling with a similar type issue. I fear it will lead to higher local taxes all around. I know my property taxes have gone up a bit again this year even though house values are dropping. Time to get a re-evaluation on my house I guess.

Here's a new development in the Florida state-run investment fund story...

Bloomberg: Florida Schools Struggle to Pay Teachers as Investments Frozen

Florida's State Board of Administration, manager of the Local Government Investment Pool, halted withdrawals yesterday at an emergency meeting after $12 billion was pulled out this month from participants. Governments from Orange County, home of Disney World, to Pompano Beach asked for their money back following disclosures that the fund held $1.5 billion of downgraded and defaulted debt.

``The unthinkable and the unimaginable have just happened here in Florida,'' said Hal Wilson, chief financial officer of the Jefferson County school district, which kept its entire $2.7 million of cash in the fund. ``What we just experienced here is a classic run-on-the bank meltdown.''

Thousands of school districts, towns and fire departments across the U.S. keep their cash in state- and county-run pools. These public accounts, modeled after private money-market funds, are supposed to invest in safe, liquid, short-term debt such as Treasuries and certificates of deposit from highly rated banks.

By freezing the Florida fund, officials left governments without ready access to cash they are accustomed to drawing upon for routine expenditures. The pool was the largest of its kind in the U.S. at $27 billion before the unprecedented withdrawals.

Dragonfly41, thanks for the update of the Florida story. I am searching for more information as it becomes available. Our eldest daughter is a teacher and her hubby is a cop so this story has family interest for me.
If the State of Florida attempts to raid the retirement fund to bail out the hurting 'slush fund (state liquidity fund)', state employees might finally awaken to the dire straights our economy is in...maybe.

River, I have a sister-in-law and a brother in California and I'm afraid they will soon be in a similar situation. The State of California is going to start losing mucho dinero from the housing situation soon if not already. It's an expensive place to live when things are normal. Under stress, it's all the worse.

The mortgage scam is pervasive. The big banks are infected, the pension plans are infected, and insurance companies' funds are caught up in it ...

As I understand it when we went off the gold standard we sort of sneakily substituted oil as a new sort of specie to back the fiat, or more specifically the annual increasing volume of oil. When that ended the value of the U.S. currency, predicated on this volume meeting demand, began to drop.

Things with utility are best in these days - I don't know what I'd do with a chunk of money to manage for income and growth in these days - its a total minefield and who knows where the nuclear waste will pop up as those on the hook squirm around trying to find a way out of their predicament.

where did Don Sailorman go?

I don't post anymore, but I do read TOD. The Fed, in my opinion, has the power to avoid deflation--at the cost of increasing inflation. The effects of peak oil will be harsh, including many business failures and (over time) a huge increase in unemployment, but I think the Fed will try to accommodate to rising oil prices by pumping enough liquidity into the system to prevent a cascade of banks going broke and bringing down other financial institutions.

It is possible the economy could get stuck in a liquidity trap, when borrowing and lending dry up due to bleak economic expectations, but I think massive deficits by the federal government will result in a monetization of these deficits that will overwhelm the effects of any liquidity trap.

Hi Don, do you know anything about "The President's Working Group on Financial Markets"? I'd like to know more about them and what they really do.

I don't know anything about the president's working group on financial markets. Note that the president has very limited power to affect financial markets: The Fed creates monetary policy and Congress makes fiscal policy (taxing and spending by the federal government), subject to presidential veto.

Hi Don,
While agree that the Fed will pull out all the stops it has to mitigate what is taking place in the financial and housing markets over the short term, I'm not so sure it will be enough to pull the economy out of this rut over the long term.
What I see happening in the markets is unprecedented so there isn't much to go on to say what will happen either way. But the situation certainly looks bad, long term.
Paulson is playing a role as part of the president's working group by trying to get the SIV bailout going as well as the sub-prime bailout going. So far the SIV bailout is going nowhere. The sub-prime bailout is very interesting so far. What could he possibly be saying to these banks to make them want to rewrite these ARM terms?
Is he brow beating them? Offering them favors? Asking them politely? He has no leverage. Yet he wants to see results. My guess is the banks are humoring him. Pity the poor sucker who gets foreclosed on the week before the bank tells everyone else they've got 5 more years to pay at the intro rates. I'm sure that will go over real well.
Anyway, it's good to hear what you have to say.

-Don</