DrumBeat: May 15, 2008


Malthus, the false prophet

Once again the gloom is overdone. There may no longer be virgin lands to be settled and cultivated, as in the 19th century, but there is no reason to believe that agricultural productivity has hit a buffer. Indeed, one of the main barriers to another “green revolution” is unwarranted popular worries about genetically modified foods, which is holding back farm output not just in Europe, but in the developing countries that could use them to boost their exports.

...Although neo-Malthusianism naturally has much to say about food scarcity, the doctrine emerges more generally as the idea of absolute limits on resources and energy, such as the notion of “peak oil”. Following the earlier scares of the 1970s, oil companies defied the pessimists by finding extra fields, not least since higher prices had spurred new exploration. But even if oil wells were to run dry, economies can still adapt by finding and exploiting other energy sources.

Petrobras Has Drilled Halfway Through Carioca, Minister Says

(Bloomberg) -- Petroleo Brasileiro SA, Brazil's state-controlled oil company, has drilled halfway through its offshore Carioca deposit and will need more time to determine its size, Mines and Energy Minister Edison Lobao said.


Shell: Crude shortfalls will boost renewables

Royal Dutch Shell said the failure of crude suppliers to keep pace with accelerating demand may prompt the expansion of renewable energy.

There's "plenty of oil in the world," Shell's Scenario Team said today on a Webcast led by Global Business Environment Vice President Jeremy Bentham. "The important moment is actually not a possible peak of oil production;" it's when demand exceeds supply, which may "come well before a peak" in output.


OPEC Cuts Oil Demand Forecast; Buyers Shun Heavy Oil

(Bloomberg) -- The Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries cut its 2008 global oil demand forecast for a second time in three months as producers report difficulties selling ``heavy'' crude grades.


Norway's budget surplus soars on oil

The Norwegian government's budget surplus for 2008, benefiting from record oil prices, is expected to soar more than 23 percent over the original projections, the finance minister said Thursday.


Gazprom joins Quebec gas plant consortium

CALGARY–Russia's Gazprom is joining a consortium developing a Canadian liquefied natural gas terminal and will supply all of the $840 million plant's gas needs from its huge Shtokman project, the companies said Thursday.


Congress looks to close 'Enron loophole' in trading

WASHINGTON — Federal regulators would have more authority to monitor electronic energy markets and guard against market manipulation under legislation approved today as part of the congressional farm bill.


PG&E asks customers to conserve during heat wave

Anticipating triple-digit temperatures in many parts of California this week, Pacific Gas and Electric Co. is asking its "Critical Peak Pricing" customers to voluntarily conserve energy.


Daimler: UPS Placed Major Order Of Hybrid, Natural Gas Trucks

FRANKFURT -(Dow Jones)- Daimler AG (DAI) said Wednesday that United Parcel Service Inc. (UPS) ordered 200 hybrid electric trucks and 300 compressed natural gas vehicles.

In a statement, Daimler said that this represents its largest of alternative- fuel and drive-train commercial vehicles to-date.


Memorial Day driving to drop slightly - AAA

More than 12% of the U.S. population will be celebrating the Memorial Day weekend away from home, AAA said. Of those traveling, AAA said 31.7 million people, or 83%, are expected to drive. That's 1% fewer than the 32 million Memorial Day drivers a year ago. And airline travel is expected to decrease 0.5%.

"With Americans working paycheck to paycheck, high energy costs are having an effect," said AAA vice president Mark Brown in a press conference. "Americans are finding themselves at a travel tipping point."


Why is everyone suddenly gaga over gas?

Crude oil gets all the headlines, but there's another fossil fuel that's had an even more impressive run this year.

Natural gas has surged 55 per cent in 2008, topping the 29-per-cent rise in crude. And it could go higher still, especially if the summer brings scorching temperatures that prompt homeowners to crank up their air conditioners or hurricanes that knock out gas platforms in the Gulf of Mexico.


Mexico's Battle over Oil

On April 8, President Felipe Calderon dropped a political bomb on the Mexican political scene. The Senate received an executive initiative that would fundamentally change the structure and operations of the oil company, Petroleos Mexicanos (Pemex). Key operations of the state-owned enterprise would pass into private hands.


Brazil Delays Oil Auctions on Lack of Equipment, Minister Says

(Bloomberg) -- Brazil won't auction new oil properties until at least 2009 because there is a lack of equipment necessary to expand exploration, Mines an Energy Minister Edison Lobao said.


Record Fuel Prices Spur Sales of Gas Cap Locks

With gas heading toward the $5-a-gallon mark a surge in gas thefts from parked cars is the latest energy crisis to hit consumers, with widespread police reports coast to coast of tanks being drained in broad daylight.

One woman in a quiet Staten Island neighborhood left her BMW in her driveway with an $80 full tank of gas to take public transit, only to return from work to find her tank virtually empty.

Even cop cars are getting hit, with the NYPD ordering 400 locking gas caps on certain vehicles to cut down on the high tabs for replacing stolen gas.


St. Maarten: Tighten your belt

As expected, fuel prices will go up again Friday, as a result of the ever-rising oil price on the international market. The increase by no less than 30 cents per litre of gasoline and per litre of diesel fuel is sure to be felt by motorists as well as bus and taxi drivers.

No only that, but practically all businesses will be dealing with increased transport cost that will no doubt be passed on to the consumer. The fuel price increase will also lead to higher energy bills, which have already gone up considerably in the past year.


Cyprus: Government promises measures to offset soaring fuel prices

THE GOVERNMENT said yesterday it was considering counter-measures to offset soaring fuel prices.

This was announced by Commerce Minister Antonis Paschalides as prices at the pump rose again in response to soaring international oil prices.


Pakistan advances clock to conserve energy

Islamabad (IANS) Facing a huge energy deficit, Pakistan has drawn up a comprehensive plan for conserving power by advancing clocks by an hour and ordering markets to close by 9 p.m. from June 1. The adjustment in the Pakistan Standard Time (PST) would take it six hours ahead of GMT. Henceforth, sunrise in Islamabad will be at 6 a.m. instead of 5 a.m. and sunset at 8 p.m.

Pakistan, which faces an energy shortfall of 4,000 MW, has twice before attempted to introduce daylight saving time but has failed on both occasions, Dawn reported Thursday.


Author gushing with oil knowledge; Professor speaks at conference

"One hundred and fifty years after the first commercial oil well in Oil Springs, global oil production is about to peak; we are at the zenith of the industry," he said. "It's very fitting that Thomas Homer-Dixon has a message about adjustment to a world of high energy demand and declining resources."

Homer-Dixon's speech at Petrolia's Victoria Hall, "The Great Transition: Coping with the end of the oil age," focused on oil production and the severity of the ongoing climate and energy crises.

His message: we're running out of cheap oil.


Celebrate clean coal, come on!

In one TV commercial, Kool and the Gang warble their celebration of good times because coal, yes, coal, makes the party possible in America. In another, white and black, young and old, male and female, and even someone in a doctor's green scrubs, stare into the camera and soulfully declare: "I believe" American know-how will make coal clean and stop it from contributing to climate change. Not sold? Maybe you missed the newspaper ads and billboards warning that turning away from coal could mean blackouts, unemployment and higher electric bills.


Clean coal, dirty business?

While there may be no question of WWF Australia's good intentions in adding its name to the coalition calling for increased emphasis on research into Carbon Capture and Storage (CCS), is it really advisable to campaign for an increase in government investment (financial, but also philosophical) in this still mythical technology?


“The Rocky Road to a Real Transition”: A Review

It is flattering that so early in a movement such as the Transition movement, people take the time to sit down and write such a detailed critique of it. Trapese Popular Education Collective were previously behind the excellent ‘Do It Yourself Manual’. As the first published external examination of the Transition model it is to be welcomed, and the authors raise a number of important questions. From my perspective, “The Rocky Road…” does a very good job of identifying many of the key areas where Transition is distinctly different from other approaches to social activism.


Woodside drops hot rocks

ALTERNATIVE energy group Geodynamics lost cornerstone investor Woodside Petroleum yesterday.

Woodside, a gas and oil business, offloaded all $17.3 million of its holdings in Geodynamics, which is trying to tap "geothermal" power from underground hot rocks.


OPEC trims 2008 global oil demand forecast

LONDON — OPEC on Thursday trimmed its forecast for global growth in oil demand in 2008, the latest sign that record oil prices are slowing consumption in the industrialized world.

The exporter group also cut its estimate for oil supply from non-member countries in 2008, leading to a slight increase in the amount of crude its 13 members need to pump to balance the market.


Peak-oil spike reshapes the suburbs

The reality of peak oil will see properties classified into two types in the near future, according to Simon Fraser University professor Anthony Perl.

One will be properties from which owners can get to work, leisure activities, and services predominantly by car. The other offers alternatives to the automobile such as public transit, biking, and walking.


Prices causing people to curb gasoline use - Exxon chief

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The price of gasoline in the United States is at or near the level where people begin to curb their usage, Exxon Mobil Corp chief executive Rex Tillerson told NBC's "Today" program on Thursday.

"We're already seeing some demand slackening in gasoline demand in terms of miles driven," Tillerson said. "So I think we're very near, if we're not already at, the price where people clearly are altering their daily behavior."


No peak: Why oil prices will fall again

Although U.S. crude oil inventories have fallen, gasoline inventories are at their highest since March 1993, notes Tim Evans, an energy futures analyst at Citigroup's Futures Perspective. World oil production was up 2.5 percent in the first quarter of 2008 over the same period in 2007, while world oil consumption rose by just 2 percent.

In fact, world production is projected to be 3.3 percent higher in the second quarter and 4.1 percent higher in the third quarter than the same periods a year ago. On the other hand, world demand is projected to rise by just 1.6 percent over the next six months.


Oil price means BA can barely make a profit on flights

The record oil price means British Airways can barely make a profit on flights despite being poised to announce a record profit margin on its operations in the year to the end of March.


Japan's TEPCO doubles oil buy in April y/y

TOKYO (Reuters) - Japan's biggest utility, Tokyo Electric Power Co more than doubled its purchases of crude oil and fuel oil in April from a year earlier, it said on Thursday.

This reflects the need for the company to burn more oil after the extended shutdown of its nuclear power plant.


Japan facing inflation crisis

Inflation might be of emerging concern to the US, but in Japan it's a real problem now, which shows no sign of slowing.


Japan's largest utility to build its first wind farm

TOKYO (Reuters) - Japan's biggest utility Tokyo Electric Power Co (TEPCO) said on Thursday it would build its first wind farm in Shizuoka Prefecture, west of Tokyo, to cut carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions.


China central bank sees ample room for oil product price rises

BEIJING (XFN-ASIA) - China's central bank said that there was ample room for rises in the state-set prices of oil products.


China's weakness the greater danger

Although recent events in Tibet and western China, and the central government's response, appear to be generating pro-government patriotic feelings, they dramatically display the practical limits of the government's power. Other sources of unhappiness with the regime, including income disparities and the inevitable collapse of unsustainable price controls on fuel and food, could breed both urban and rural discontent that has no ready outlet besides unlawful opposition to the government.


Venezuela's Chavez Says Attack by U.S. Would Cause $500 Oil

(Bloomberg) -- Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, whose country is the biggest oil exporter in the Americas, said crude oil would rise to ``$400 or $500 a barrel'' in the case of a U.S. attack.

The reactivation of the U.S. Fourth Fleet in the Caribbean on July 1 and a possible U.S. base on the Guajira Peninsula, which Venezuela shares with Colombia, are both threats to his country, Chavez said at his country's military academy in a speech broadcast on state radio and television.


Venezuela to sell oil to Portugal in exchange for food, technology, Chavez says

CARACAS, Venezuela: Venezuela announced plans Tuesday to ship oil to Portugal in exchange for food products and other goods that have been running short in the South American country.

Venezuela, Latin America's largest oil producer, will send as many as 30,000 barrels of crude a day to Portugal by late 2008, President Hugo Chavez told reporters after meeting with Portuguese Prime Minister Jose Socrates.


Four Indian oil workers kidnapped in Sudan

KHARTOUM (Reuters) - Four Indian oil workers have been abducted in the oil-rich south of Sudan by disaffected locals, diplomatic sources said on Thursday.


FG, Shell reach crucial stage in funding for oil production

Royal Dutch Shell is close to signing a financing deal with Nigeria aimed at tackling funding shortfalls hitting production at one of its most important oil businesses.

The plan is designed to inject cash into Shell’s joint venture with the Nigerian government. The state’s failure to pay its share of costs has stalled key projects.


Running Out of History

A report from the Bureau of Meteorology in Australia makes clear that, despite recent heavy rains in the eastern Australian breadbasket, years of above normal rainfall would be needed "to remove the very long-term [water] deficits" in the region. The report then adds this ominous note: "The combination of record heat and widespread drought during the past five to 10 years over large parts of southern and eastern Australia is without historical precedent and is, at least partly, a result of climate change."

Think a bit about that phrase -- "without historical precedent."


A cool look at global warming scepticism

Scientists are human, and scientific debates fall short of the ideal. There is turf protection and self-promotion, and rancour is not uncommon. As an advocate of a minority view in my own field for twenty years, a view ultimately vindicated, I am personally acquainted with these imperfections. The IPCC process is specifically intended to step back from the front-line disputes to see what scientists can agree on. This is the part of the IPCC process that seems to have completely escaped Professor Aitkin’s understanding.


Insider: Peak oil

Followers of the peak oil theory argue the world has already or soon will have used up more than half the non-renewable resource. They say current crude prices are just the beginning. Skeptics insist there is no reason to believe that carbon-based capitalism has started to run out of gas. Today’s record prices, they argue, are driven by massive market speculation. Canadian Business writers Thomas Watson (anti-peak) and Jeff Sanford (pro-peak) debate the issue below.


Naimi Counters Peak Oil Theorists, Says World Reserves Doubled

Saudi Arabian Oil Minister Ali al- Naimi said global crude oil reserves have doubled since 1980, countering analysts who predict a supply shortage.


Sechin Looks to Raise Oil Output

Prime Minister Vladimir Putin and his new energy policy director, Deputy Prime Minister Igor Sechin, went on the offensive Wednesday to battle claims that the country's oil production was in decline.

"You think oil production is declining?" Sechin said in an interview with Interfax, a first for the secretive former Kremlin insider who has been thrust into the spotlight with his Cabinet appointment this week.

"Let's wait until the end of the year. I'm sure there won't be a decline, but an increase instead," he said, declining to provide reasoning for the claim.


Norway trims 2008 oil and gas output forecast

OSLO (Reuters) - Norway's Labour-led government trimmed its 2008 oil production forecast to 2.4 million barrels per day from a previous projection of 2.5 million bpd, according to the revised budget for this year published on Thursday.

"Oil production is expected to continue to decrease gradually in the coming years," the Petroleum and Energy Ministry said in a statement with the revised budget.


Petrobras Hires 80% of Deepwater Drilling Rigs, Drives Up Costs

(Bloomberg) -- Petroleo Brasileiro SA, Brazil's state-controlled oil company, leased about 80 percent of the world's deepest-drilling offshore rigs to explore prospects including the Western Hemisphere's biggest discovery in decades.

...The company's ``insatiable'' demand is forcing producers including Exxon Mobil Corp. and BP Plc to pay more as they compete for the remaining units, said Kjell Erik Eilertsen and Truls Olsen, analysts at Fearnley Fonds AS in Oslo. Explorers that don't have rigs under contract may delay projects or pay rents of more than $600,000 a day.


Don't hope for gas prices to drop, says oil economist

Most drivers think $4 per gallon of gasoline is too much to pay in a weakening economy. Sales for sport-utility vehicles are plummeting. And people are actually driving less.

But don't expect prices to fall anytime soon despite slackening domestic demand, American Petroleum Institute chief economist John Felmy said Wednesday. The API, based in Washington, D.C., represents the U.S. oil and gas industry.


Greenspan Says Oil to Keep Rising on Capacity Limits

(Bloomberg) -- Former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan said oil prices will keep rising as energy companies have invested too little in production and infrastructure to cope with higher demand.


Alaska first state to hit $4 a gallon gasoline: AAA

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Alaska hit a milestone on Wednesday that could be a sign of things to come around the United States this summer -- it became the first state where the average price for regular gasoline reached $4 per gallon.


Bank of England warns 'the good times are over' as Britons face real cut in the standard of living

Families face a five-pronged assault on their finances, Governor Mervyn King said in his bleakest assessment yet of the state of the country.

In his quarterly Inflation Report, Mr King said although Britain had enjoyed rising living standards over the past ten years, this golden period was over.


Why does Brazil want to join Opec?

What is it about oil that makes Brazilian officials so talkative? Last month, the country's oil regulator provoked uproar when he claimed, very speculatively, that the recently discovered Carioca field might hold a massive 33 billion barrels of recoverable oil reserves. Now, Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, Brazil's president, speaking to Der Spiegel, says he wants his country to join Opec.


Saudi-US relations hit rocky road

Saudis are uncharacteristically blunt when asked about George W Bush, the US president, and what his two-term administration has brought to the Middle East. Most see an abysmal legacy: a dangerous mess in Iraq, a deepening Israeli-Palestinian conflict and a volatile tug-of-war between Washington and Tehran, most recently on display in the embattled boulevards of Beirut.

“We love and admire the United States, I can assure you, and I speak for many people on this matter,” said Saeed al Farha al Ghamdi, a retired government employee in Jeddah. “But, unfortunately their foreign policy is disastrous.”


JPMorgan to start physical oil trade, eyes $200 oil

SINGAPORE (Reuters) - JPMorgan Chase & Co will begin trading physical oil by year-end, increasing its exposure in a market that could rise to $200 a barrel, the bank's global head of commodities said on Wednesday.


PetroChina may scrap Sichuan refinery plan after quake

BEIJING (Reuters) - PetroChina is reconsidering its plan to build a $5.7 billion refinery and petrochemical complex in Sichuan province after a strong earthquake hit the region this week, a company executive said on Thursday.

The 7.9-magnitude quake on Monday destroyed many buildings, disrupted transport and communication lines as well as fuel and power supplies and had killed an estimated 15,000 people, with thousands more still believed to be buried.


Total, Saudi Aramco announce 400,000 bpd refinery project

PARIS (AFP) - The French oil group Total and the Saudi Arabian Oil Company (Saudi Aramco) announced plans Wednesday for a 400,000-barrel-per-day refinery in the eastern Saudi city of Jubail on the Gulf coast.

The groups said in a joint statement that the facility would process Arabian Heavy crude oil, with operations expected to begin at the end of 2012.


South Africa's Eskom Misses Winter Coal Stocks Target

(Bloomberg) -- Eskom Holdings Ltd., South Africa's state-owned electricity utility, missed a target for increasing coal stocks, raising the risk of power cuts with the onset of winter in the southern hemisphere.


Nigeria: Nationwide Blackout Worsens As Funding Stalls Repairs

The current nationwide blackout may worsen as funding continues to be the major albatross to the maintenance of the existing electricity infrastructure in the country.

THIS DAY learnt that the Federal Government has not released funds for any repair work on the existing power plants. This has left the infrastructure in a state of near collapse.


T. Boone Pickens orders 667 GE turbines for wind farm in Panhandle

T. Boone Pickens has placed a massive order for wind turbines with General Electric, a big step toward building the world's largest wind farm in the Panhandle.

Mr. Pickens' company, Mesa Power LLP, plans to announce today that it ordered 667 turbines from GE for about $2 billion.


On the roof, wind turbines to bring power

Tel Aviv residents are likely to encounter a new sight on local rooftops in the coming years. No longer will there just be the walls and fences on high-rise rooftops that currently surround the various devices and machinery, but there will also be wind turbine farms that will supply part of the building's electricity needs.


Economic Slowdown Challenges Solar Industry - EPIA

FRANKFURT - The economic slowdown, regulatory conflicts and competition from China pose the main risks to future growth of the solar industry, the head of the European Photovoltaic Industry Associations told Reuters.


Ships bring water to parched Barcelona

Climb down the stony banks of the massive Sau reservoir in the mountains above Barcelona and you get a real sense of why this famous city is so short of water that it's resorted to bringing in emergency supplies - by ship.

Nestling in a deep valley of stunning cliffs and forests, this vital source of water has sunk so low it's exposed the eerie sight of a medieval village that was flooded when the reservoir was opened in the 1960s.

The huddle of ancient stone buildings, including a church with its spire, has now re-emerged into the light and stands as a potent symbol of the severity of this water crisis.


U.S. adds polar bear to threatened list

The Bush administration listed the polar bear as a threatened species Wednesday, agreeing with conservationists that the bear's Arctic habitat is melting due to global warming.

That is where the agreement with conservationists ends.

"This listing will not stop global climate change or prevent any sea ice from melting," Interior Secretary Dirk Kempthorne said while announcing the decision. The Endangered Species Act should not be "abused to make global warming policies," he said.

Kassie Siegel, a lawyer with the Center for Biological Diversity, said the group does not accept Kempthorne's view.

The act requires federal agencies to take steps to reduce or eliminate those impacts on threatened species, she said. "There is no exemption for greenhouse gas emissions."


Oil cos. expect battles over polar bear listing

JUNEAU, Alaska - The lawyers aren't clearing their calendars just yet, but the oil industry is bracing for some courtroom battles to maintain its stake in Alaska's oil-rich fields now that the Interior Department has listed polar bears as a threatened species.

The new OPEC Monthly Oil Market Report is out this morning. (PDF) According to "secondary sources" total April OPEC production was down 392,600 barrels per day from March. The largest drop came from Nigeria, down 251 kb/d. Iraq was down 104 kb/d, Iran down 34 kb/d, Saudi down 37 kb/d and Venezuela down 21 kb/d. The largest gainers were UAE up 33 kb/d and Angola up 13 kb/d.

The report is on page 35 of this 60 page PDF file.

Ron Patterson

Thanks Ron

Ron, I have been watching your post all day.

I wonder why it did not trigger off a flurry of comments - as this is quite a "smoking gun".

Thanks for sharing it.

Exxon CEO warns of Possible Oil Price Crash

http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idUSN1520443120080515

Alan

Eh? The word "oil" doesn't appear in the article. It is about gasoline prices.

Personally, I've come to the conclusion that US driving habits have almost no effect on oil prices any more. Diesel demand is driving prices. Producing enough diesel to meet demand has resulted in a glut of (relatively) cheap gasoline. If America cuts back on driving, it will put more downward pressure on gasoline prices, but it will little or no effect on diesel consumption. Hence, it will have little effect on oil prices.

So, gasoline price crash? Maybe. Oil price crash? Unlikely (though I suspect it depends on what you mean by crash).

If America cuts back on driving, it will put more downward pressure on gasoline prices

This implies that there's already "downward pressure on gasoline prices" which is massively refuted by reality.

"Iranian nukler bombs unforgivable" Bush tells Israel

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSL1550673220080515

Alan

Why does Bush frighten me more than all of the worlds terrorists put together?
That is not some frivellous comment. I really do fear for the world with that guy at the helm.

Marco.

The hypocrisy! Isreal HAS them, but is NOT a signatory to the NPV.
And Iran uses 60 year old technology of which it is highly questionable that it can produce weapon grade material.
Hans Blix and M. El Baradei are probably grinding their teeth at this one.

Thee reason Iran is building a nuclear reactor may be relatively simple.
It knows more about it's true reserves than the figures publicly given out, and how soon oil will be short.

Hypocrisy is not in the Jewish dictionary. Or don't you read about AIPAC?!!

Marco.

I'm a regular visitor to whatreallyhappened. Without loosing my healthy skeptism and critical thinking.

My healthy skeptism and critical thinking also enabled me to understand PO, and why it scares the sh*t out of me.

Thought provoking website, that

Last I checked it is the prerogative of every sovereign state to sign or not a sign treaty.

The NPV came with a set of benefits and obligations. Owing to Israel's particular defense posture, the NPV's benefits were of dubious value to the nation, so it refrained from signing the treaty and taking on the obligations.

Iran signed.

So then why doesn't Israel admit that it has nuclear weapons?

If Israel admitted it had nuclear weapons, it would have to admit that these have deterrent value which far outstrips the military utility of taking more land.

Now why would you want more land? That land is taken by settlers and developers, who vote and contribute to political parties. Real estate, as we Americans and Britons have seen the last decade, can create an asset bubble that makes a fiscally irresponsible government look good while it seizes dictatorial powers. The Neocons applied this model first in Israel, then via Alan Greenspan and dual-citizen advisors who cluster around Dick Cheney, it came to the US. The British always follow us.

What kind of rule should we expect to be created by a state-enforced real estate asset bubble? Real estate and financial speculation corrupting the entire political system? Check. The use of a terrorist threat to clamp down on media reporting on the real threat of an asset collapse? Check. The perversion of standards of government on purported security needs such that a president or prime minister refuses to resign after conduct for which his predecessors would have quit, without any subsequent impeachment by the legislature? Check. Oh yeah, and that inflation and bank collapses and depression and stuff.

The Anglo-American bubbles ran aground on the sheer size of their drain on global capital and the supply of oil to fuel more consumption. The Israelis are still building settlements. Their bubble lasts as long as their army and farmers gang up to drive Palestinian farmers off their land one after the other. Or until the water runs out.

I hear the Shia Lebanese have a whole lot of water...

So then why doesn't Israel admit that it has nuclear weapons? Israel has not signed any treaty obliging her to do so.

If Israel admitted it had nuclear weapons, it would have to admit that these have deterrent value which far outstrips the military utility of taking more land. Nope. Israel would not have to admit that, partly because it isn't true.

Now why would you want more land? Why does anyone? Depends on the land and the context. But a silly question given that Israel has been retreating from land for quite some time now.

I hear the Shia Lebanese have a whole lot of water... As well as several tracts of land bought by Jewish philanthropists in the early 1900's, and confiscated and de-Jewed in the conflicts later on. History is complicated.

So then why doesn't Israel admit that it has nuclear weapons?
Israel has not signed any treaty obliging her to do so.

But there ARE US laws that would shut off funding sources.

There was some sqauking over India/Pakistan and these laws in the past years.

But there ARE US laws that would shut off funding sources. And?

And?

And Israel will not admit to having nuke weapons in public as the US might then cut off funding.

Unless one thinks the US of A is not a country under the rule of law.

For years the argument justifying MAD would require 'your enemies' knowing you have nukes. So either Israel has no fission or fusion weapons (because they are at peace with their neighbors?), MAD is not a valid argument, or Israel does not want the US laws on cutting funding to kick in.

I'll leave it to you to figure out why Israel as a nation has not announced its fission/fusion weapon status.

Israel will not admit to having nuke weapons in public as the US might then cut off funding

Actually, Olmert did admit just that. Please see any of a large number of news items.

Olmert did admit just that.

If funding happens (like it did for Pakastan/India) then the laws of the US of A have no meaning eh?

America will do what is in its interests, as per the division of responsibilities delineated by Constitution and law and parceled out to Congress, the President, and the State Department. There are no matters of treaty law related to it, as there are no treaties between the US and Israel that pertain to Israel's nuclear program. There is past legislation, but whenever Congress and State square off over something like this, it's usually Congress that backs away, because a hamstrung State Department is not a good thing.

Israel, in the mean time, will pursue its own interests. The non-proliferation treaty is not related to any of this.

The non-proliferation treaty is not related to any of this.

Actually, its eqitable application is exactly the issue regarding Iran and Israel.
Here is a search results page from the National Security Archive at George Washington U. (I implore people to search this massive trove of previously secret info, especially the Operation Northwoods file) for Israeli nuclear weapons. The whole collection from just this search makes fascinating reading--now you know where your tax dollars went. Furthermore, The documents found at the link were used along with others to make credible this book.

Most people understand the Pentagon Papers revealed a whole hidden history--the internal truth--regarding US involvement in Vietnam. There are many other similar stories about other aspects of US Imperial policy, some of which are available at the above GWU site.

*clap* *clap*

Thank you for digging up the book and link. Hopefully others will look at these matters before actual bombs are dropped.

The "equitable" application of the treaty is its application to the signers. Israel never signed.

America will do what is in its interests, as per the division of responsibilities delineated by Constitution and law and parceled out to Congress, the President, and the State Department.

Huh. Plenty of people can argue plenty of times when action has stepped outside of the delineation you have stated (Trail of Tears) or used the public power for private gain. (Teapot Dome)

But you just keep on typing responsibilities delineated by Constitution and law - perhaps one day you'll find a nice reality-free zone where such will be believed.

And in this news cycle you have this oddity:
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/campaignmatters?bid=45&pid=300093

"The role of the president of the United States is to support the decisions that are made by the people of Israel," Lewis said.

Israel, in the mean time, will pursue its own interests.

Yes, because the Nation-State of Israel is UNIQUE in all state-based actions are done for the state, never ever for the private benefit of various people in contridiction to the states own laws.

The non-proliferation treaty is not related to any of this.

You can say anything you want. Doesn't make it true.

I've already shown that you are wrong on the whole America and Law angle with nothing more than the way the man on the $20 bill treated the soverign Cherokee nation. A man who flaunted the Supreme Court gets to have his picture on the money - that is how much American citizens love their law eh?

But I'm sure the Internet will be a-buzz with analysis of the various treaties if Iran gets bombed. Perhaps then, after action has been taken, "we" will know the legality of it eh?

you just need to read below the fold...
"...Bush tempered his remarks by adding that the Iranian push for experience handling all phases of the nuclear cycle was not only their right under the NPT, but was entirely understandable.
"Look, we are sympathetic to their goal, they have enormous quantities of natural gas but have no easy access to the major world markets for that gas.
Of course they would like to develop a petrochemical industry to give future generations of Iranians the benefit of a value-added industrial base.
Chemicals, fertilizers, plastics, these are the key to Iranian development and of course they don't want to burn their feedstock to power these energy-intensive industries...
We fully support the Iranian people's desire for a development model that does not leave them enslaved to Western bankers and dependent upon transfers of Western technology and engineering.
The US honors its treaties, respects the rule of law, and adheres to the principle of non-interference in the internal affairs of other nations.""
At least I think that's what he said, I misplaced my glasses this morning.

haha, if only... the sarcanol alarm went off when I saw "Bush tempered his remarks."

Gareth Porter exposes BushCo once again trying to "fix the facts around the policy."

I did read the entire article. Always do when I intend to comment because a few years ago I forget to thouroughly read a TOD post on nuclear energy and Prof. Goose immediately wizzled me back.

"we are sympathetic to their goal, they have enormous quantities of natural gas but have no easy access to the major world markets for that gas"

That's more hypocrisy if y'll ask me. Sanctions anyone??

Iran is after electricity - period - And GWB is paranoid on behalf of the entire US population. How long is it till November?

From the article

.... blah .... Barack Obama, who has advocated meeting leaders of traditional U.S. foes such as Iran and Cuba without preconditions.

I can't wait till that man is in office, this approach is exactly what the US need to win back global approval. To be frank, I hear the voice of "a profet" of some sort, when Obama speaks...

"a profet"???

do you mean prophet or profit? As a tried a true cynic, I only hear the latter when he speaks, though I've heard others claim the former.