DrumBeat: July 5, 2008


American Energy Policy, Asleep at the Spigot


Over the last 25 years, opportunities to head off the current crisis were ignored, missed or deliberately blocked, according to analysts, politicians and veterans of the oil and automobile industries. What’s more, for all the surprise at just how high oil prices have climbed, and fears for the future, this is one crisis we were warned about. Ever since the oil shortages of the 1970s, one report after another has cautioned against America’s oil addiction.

Even as politicians heatedly debate opening new regions to drilling, corralling energy speculators, or starting an Apollo-like effort to find renewable energy supplies, analysts say the real source of the problem is closer to home. In fact, it’s parked in our driveways.

It Was Oil, All Along

Oh, no, they told us, Iraq isn't a war about oil. That's cynical and simplistic, they said. It's about terror and al-Qaeda and toppling a dictator and spreading democracy and protecting ourselves from weapons of mass destruction. But one by one, these concocted rationales went up in smoke, fire and ashes. And now the bottom line turns out to be ... the bottom line. It is about oil.


UK: Beleaguered Brown may scrap fuel duty increase

In the week that a barrel of Brent crude oil climbed by nearly US$4 to a record high of over US$146, British prime minister Gordon Brown hinted that the 2p a litre increase in fuel duty due on October 1 would be scrapped.

‘‘You’ll find that in most years since 2000 the duty has actually been frozen,” Brown told the Commons liaison committee. ‘‘It is clearly a matter that will be looked at very, very carefully over the next few weeks.”


Nigeria's first oil well is still a source of woe

OIL WELL NO. 1, NIGERIA -- Three decades after pumping its last drop, the first oil well in Nigeria is marked by a decrepit signboard bearing what would seem an uncontroversial statement:

Oloibiri Well No. 1, drilled June 1956, 12,008 feet.

But this well, its wellhead furred with rust, is at the center of an increasingly vitriolic feud between two villages over who owns the land it's on. The conflict is fed by hope that soaring prices will tempt big business to squeeze more oil from the well and give a pittance to the village that owns the land.


How China’s thirst for oil can save the planet

The pioneers of green energy report a ‘gold rush’ mentality as soaring oil prices speed up the search for alternatives.


As Gas Prices Soar, Elderly Face Cuts in Aid

Faced with soaring gasoline prices, agencies around the country that provide services to the elderly say they are having to cut back on programs like Meals on Wheels, transportation assistance and home care, especially in rural areas that depend on volunteers who provide their own gas. In a recent survey by the National Association of Area Agencies on Aging, more than half said they had already cut back on programs because of gas costs, and 90 percent said they expected to make cuts in the 2009 fiscal year.

“I’ve never seen the increase in need at this level,” said Robert McFalls, chief executive of the Area Agency on Aging in Palm Beach, Fla., whose office has a waiting list of 1,500 people. Volunteers who deliver meals or drive the elderly to medical appointments have cut back their miles, Mr. McFalls said.


The rise of nationalism

As oil prices soar to new heights and nationalist feelings start to emerge about "national assets", many companies across the globe are starting to feel the pinch and are looking to brace for a possible backlash, a move that could cause headache to Thai companies expanding outside the safe borders of Thailand.

The latest to join the bandwagon is Vietnam, which is facing an economic meltdown after having witnessed robust growth over the past few years. Activity in Vietnam comes after Mongolia undertook its move and talk started to appear in Indonesia of ways to control exploitation of "national assets".


Spying claim may be new snag for Mexico oil debate

MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - Mexican President Felipe Calderon's efforts to get a divided Congress to back an oil reform proposal are facing a new snag as a key opposition lawmaker accuses the government of spying on him.


Pakistan: Landikotal students damage WAPDA office

LANDIKOTAL: The students of Landikotal Degree College on Friday stormed the Water And Power Development Authority’s (WAPDA) grid station and damaged its administrative block during a protest rally staged against continued power outages in the area.

“Our annual BA/BSc examinations have been started and we are suffering due to unscheduled load shedding,” the students said.


Is Chennai fuel crunch harbinger of pan-India crisis?

But the reality goes beyond Chennai. Oil companies say it will be difficult to sustain supplies if demand continues to grow at the current levels.


Talking Points For An Energy Crisis

Airlines are cutting back on water for plane toilets to save weight and fuel. They had better come up with a better business plan than that. And in the face of the burgeoning oil-price crisis, America had better come up with a plan as well.

Single-issue fixes -- like John McCain's plan to grant consumers a summertime gas-tax holiday, or Barack Obama's proposal for a windfall profits tax on oil companies -- just won't do it. America needs a comprehensive plan to deal with post-peak oil -- and that is going to involve some serious long-term thinking. To get the thought process going, here's a list of ideas -- some good, some not so good -- about how to address political, technological and social dimensions of the planet's most pressing issue.


Obama will have to avoid Carter trap

So is Obama the new Jimmy Carter? One has to hope not. For all President Carter's integrity and intelligence, he has gone down in history as a weak president. His period in office was marked by foreign policy disasters in Iran and Afghanistan. If Obama is elected president next November, there will be ample opportunity for fresh disasters in both places. There are three Carterite failings that Obama will have to watch out for: panic, pessimism and naivety.

There is no doubt that America faced an energy crisis in the 1970s. But Carter embraced an almost apocalyptic vision of the problem that now looks ridiculous. In 1977 he solemnly informed a national television audience that: "We could use up all the proven reserves of oil in the entire world by the end of the next decade."


Cause for Alarm

It was a July Fourth like many others. There was nothing overt to signal anything was wrong. The Red Sox had traveled from Boston to play a weekend series against the Yankees in the Bronx. In Washington, the National Independence Day Parade made its way along Constitution Avenue.

And yet, there was an undercurrent of anxiety in the land. Vacations have been curtailed because of the price of fuel. Since the holiday fell on a Friday, the monthly unemployment numbers from the Bureau of Labor Statistics were released a day early, on Thursday. They weren’t good.


The King of Saudi Arabia talks about oil; we should listen.

One astonishing aspect of the energy crisis is the western media’s preferences when it comes to sources of information. They love western speculators, economists, oil company executives, and politicos. Others go to small articles in the back pages, including statements by leaders of oil producing nations - even the King of Saudi Arabia, home to the world’s largest reserves. No wonder the American public gets surprised by every new development.


The myth of energy independence (audio)

Ridding ourselves of foreign energy sources is nothing but a myth according to "Gusher of Lies" author Robert Bryce. Host Bob Moon talks with Bryce about setting realistic energy goals for the U.S.


Israel: Do the Arabs gain from the energy crisis?

An energy crisis is upon us again.As Israeli gasoline prices this week broke the psychological barrier of NIS 7 a liter, while the truckers threatened to paralyze traffic across the country in protest against gas taxes, it became clear even in this prospering economy that there can be no escaping the tumult that has already made Egyptian, Haitian and Yemeni mobs storm stores, while India and China slashed oil subsidies and Pakistan said it will not be able to pay for its signed oil contracts.

The crisis is simple: There is too little crude around and too many people on queue to buy it. Understandably, then, many suspect that this crisis, like the oil embargo of the '70s, is good news for the Arabs.

It isn't.


Oil workers hit pay dirt

These are booming times for the oil industry and the sector's workers are reaping the benefits as a lack of qualified labour has led to soaring wages, experts say. At this week's World Petroleum Congress in Madrid, recruiting and retaining personnel emerged as a leading concern for oil company chiefs as they search for geologists, engineers and project managers in a limited pool of talent.


UK new car sales down, fuel a factor

Sales of new cars fell 6.1 per cent in Britain in June compared with a year ago, an industry group says.

..."We are now seeing concerns about rising fuel bills and household costs dampening consumer confidence, leading to slower demand for new cars," said Paul Everitt, the society's chief executive.


Caribbean tourism woes

The energy crisis and its effects on the airline industry are putting a damper on fun in the sun, and the Caribbean is being particularly affected. The high cost of fuel is leading the airlines to increase their prices, cut back on expenses and even cancel flights. The result is that fewer people are traveling, as they are unable or unwilling to pay the increased fares, and the ones who do fly are suffering the consequences, as are small Caribbean nations.

Tourism is vital to the economy of this region. Many of the islands rely on tourism to keep their economies afloat.


A new corporation looms on the smoggy horizon: The Air We Breathe Inc

THE greens might not like to think of it this way, but the carbon emissions reduction regime that Ross Garnaut recommends and the Rudd Government will adopt amounts to the corporatisation of clean air.


The year everything changed

I'm going to go out on a limb here with a couple of bold predictions. I think we are at a pivotal point in history; that we are witnessing the early stages of a massive shift in the global economy, in the balance of power and in the way we live.

Australia has become a barometer for these far-reaching changes. We are being pulled in opposite directions as we send vast quantities of resources off to China while a virus that started on Wall Street and spread across the US and Europe has infected our financial system.

In years to come, it's quite probable we will look back at 2008 as the year in which everything changed. And most of the changes being wrought upon us relate to energy, our use of it and its cost.


World must brace for oil beyond $150

LONDON (Reuters) - Oil's meteoric rise since the start of the year to nearly $150 has distressed consumers and policy makers the world over, but the stark reality is prices are likely to rise higher still.

For two decades, prices were relatively stable, but then they rose seven-fold from a trough below $20 in 2001. Since breaching the $100 mark on the first trading day of this year they have risen around 45 percent.

Given such momentum, politicians' efforts to bring the price down could well be a waste of energy.

"It rose so fast it's got a bubble feel, but bubbles can go on for very sustained periods, and underlying that is an extremely tight fundamental position," said Stephen Thornber, head of global energy research at Threadneedle Asset Management.


Oil minister: No country dares to attack Iran

TEHRAN, July 5 (Xinhua) -- Iranian Oil Minister Gholam-Hossein Nozari said Saturday that no country will ever dare to carry out an act of aggression against the Islamic Republic, Iran's satellite Press TV reported.

"Iran's capabilities are such that no country can conceive of attacking it," Nozari said.

"If Israel dares to engage in a military conflict with Iran, it is not clear what would happen to oil prices," Nozari warned, adding that even empty anti-Iran rhetoric "pushes oil prices up by10 to 15 dollars."


U.S. investor: Oil reserve decline is major reason behind oil price hike

U.S. investor Jim Rogers has said that the decline in known oil reserves across the world is the main reason behind the skyrocketing oil prices that have already topped 145 U.S. dollars a barrel.

While admitting that factors driving up oil prices are various, Rogers insisted that short of oil supply was the fundamental factor pushing oil prices up all the way.


Companies begin quest for oil, gas off Florida

PENSACOLA, Fla. - Oil companies once viewed drilling in the deep waters off Florida as cost prohibitive. Politicians feared even the slightest sign of support would be career suicide.

No more. Record crude oil prices are fueling support for oil and natural gas exploration off the nation's shores. In Florida, movement was underway even before President Bush called on Congress last month to lift a federal moratorium that's barred new offshore drilling since 1981.


Iran and Brazil Can Do It. So Can We.

Is energy independence a pipe dream? Hardly. In the electricity sector, the mission has already been accomplished. Remember President Jimmy Carter in his cardigan during the oil crises of the 1970s, urging Americans to save electricity? It took us just one decade to wean the electricity sector from oil. Today, only 2 percent of U.S. electricity comes from oil, according to the Energy Department. Could we do something similar with transportation, where American cars and trucks still gulp oil-based fuel greedily? At least four very different countries -- dictatorships and democracies alike -- are already making serious headway toward that goal. It's past time to pay attention to their example.


Big Oil poised to make triumphant return to Iraq

When Big Oil excutives and U.S. Vice-President Dick Cheney met for secret energy talks in the spring of 2001, one subject that weighed on all their minds was the potential loss of Iraq's bountiful oil reserves.

After more than a decade of hostile U.S.-Iraqi relations, Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein had negotiated deals with oil companies from a range of countries, including Russia, China and India, to develop Iraq's largely undeveloped reserves.

That meant U.S. oil companies were to be denied a stake in developing one of the last oil bonanzas left on Earth. It also meant that the U.S. risked being denied access to this vast new source of petroleum – the commodity it considers essential to its continued status as an economic and military superpower.


Pemex seeks site for new refinery to cut gasoline imports

Petroleos Mexicanos, the state-owned Mexican oil company, may begin construction of a $7-billion refinery by the end of 2010 to reduce imports of gasoline and diesel fuel.

A study has been commissioned to determine the site of the new plant, according to a filing with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission.


We're not over a barrel

If we are truly reaching the end of petroleum production -- a scenario known as "peak oil" -- there are all kinds of gloomy predictions one could make. Facing the future of $200-a-barrel oil, analysts are already using terms like "financial tsunami." They predict that inflation will skyrocket with the price of gas, creating a flashback of mid-70s stagflation. Commuters will become energy refugees, abandoning their homes and their SUVs and invading the cities. In the meantime, production costs will cripple manufacturers, a scenario that would turn Central Canada's factories into a scrap heap of rust. "I can't think of any upside to $200[-a-barrel] oil," former EnCana chief executive Gwyn Morgan told the National Post.

Yet if history is any example, ingenuity can trump disaster. After all, we live in a market economy that can adjust, innovate and progress. After Malthus's famous end-of-days scenario, necessity mothered invention: diversified agricultural techniques appeared, legislation led to cheaper food imports and the Industrial Revolution made for greater efficiencies. Almost two hundred years later, the same thing happened. Paul Ehrlich predicted in his 1968 bestseller The Population Bomb that exploding demographics and an imploding food supply would literally decimate the United States, leaving only 22 million survivors. But the so-called "Green Revolution" stepped in. Pesticides, irrigation projects and synthetic nitrogen fertilizer contributed to a massive agricultural advance. And population-wise, there was another significant development: The Pill.


A dream of Russian dandelions

Out for a bike ride in Northern California, whipping down some rural road where the cows far outnumber the cars and the only energy actively being consumed is generated by the home fries you had for breakfast, it's easy to feel, however fleetingly, that you've escaped from the gas-price peak-oil climate-change rat race. The world simplifies. Head winds and hills are straightforward challenges, easy to parse, in contrast to such mysteries as to how much speculation contributes to the cost of oil, or how to calculate the net energy-efficiency of biofuels.

But then I read, in this morning's edition of the Road Bike Rider newsletter, that WTB, a high-end bike component manufacturer, raised prices on its tires and tubes 20 percent as of Monday. Michelin is following suit, instituting its own 15 percent price hike on Sept. 1.

There is no escape.


Venezuela calls on OPEC to subsidize oil for poor countries

CARACAS -- Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez Thursday called on the OPEC cartel to absorb the costs of the oil import bills of the world's 50 poorest countries, predicting that the price of crude is "going to continue rising."

"OPEC, or some of its members, should take the responsibility to supply these countries through special mechanisms, subsidies, donations, agreements. It is not going to make us any richer or poorer," he said at a meeting of the non-aligned movement at Isla Margarita on Venezuela's northern coast.


Backing off on the gas : Teens alter summer plans amid soaring prices

Squires, 18, attends San Diego City College. He wants to transfer to the University of San Diego. He wants to study medicine. More immediately, though, he wants to volunteer at a hospital so he can start preparing for a future in medicine.

But he can't do that.

Squires' summer plans have changed due to the rapidly-rising cost of gasoline. He can't afford to make the trek to volunteer at the hospital. Instead, he stays close to home, working a part-time job because it's what he has to do now.


Traditional fishing lifestyle in south Thailand under threat

PATTANI, Thailand (AFP) — Idling on the muddy sands of Thailand's coastal deep south, fishing boats hand-painted in lurid primary colours languish while their owners look on helplessly.

Traditional fishing, once a thriving industry in southern Pattani and Yala provinces, has been reduced to a dwindling niche activity as fishermen lose out to large commercial firms and soaring fuel prices.


European utilities building up uranium inventories

Utilities in the 27 European Union states have started to rebuild their inventories of uranium, according to the Euratom Supply Agency. Plutonium recycled in European reactors saved the equivalent of over 1000 tonnes of natural uranium.


Changing Environment - Dealing With Disaster: 'Climate refugees' on the increase

The number of migrants is rising so quickly that it might destabilize the world.


Only seven years left for global warming target: UN panel chief

PARIS (AFP) - The head of the UN's Nobel-winning panel of climate scientists on Friday said only seven years remained for stabilising emissions of global-warming gases at a level widely considered safe.


No credit as oceans turn sour

There's another carbon problem, which will profoundly affect our oceans, that has received scant attention beyond a small band of marine scientists and is largely independent of global warming.


UN chief to G8: climate change, food crisis linked

AMSTERDAM, Netherlands - The global food crisis will only worsen because of climate change, the U.N. climate chief said Friday, urging leaders of the world's richest countries meeting in Japan next week to set goals to reduce carbon emissions within the next dozen years.

Food security and soaring oil prices are likely to overtake climate change in the priorities of the G-8 meeting starting Monday, though global warming was the theme set by the host, Japanese Prime Minister Yasuo Fukuda.

Fuel Prices give pause to Anti-Rickshaw Restrictions

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/27/AR200806...

In the Amsterdam photo essay yesterday, I saw a couple of "bicycle taxis". Western versions of rickshaws.

Best Hopes for Non-Oil Taxis,

Alan

http://www.citizen-times.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200880516153

Pedicabs bring leg-powered locomotion to downtown

Nanci Bompey • • published May 17, 2008 12:15 am

ASHEVILLE – Tourists and locals will have a new way to get around parts of the city when Your Chariot Awaits rolls out its fleet of pedicabs today.

Instead of walking from the Grove Arcade to Pack Square, potential customers will be able to call, e-mail, text message or hail one of the five bicycle-powered rickshaws to shuttle them around downtown Asheville, the River Arts District and the Montford neighborhood.
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“I wanted to incorporate fun with a business, and this is what happened,” said Felicia Thurman, the company’s owner, who got the idea after a trip to Charleston, S.C., where the three-wheeled, human-powered vehicles shuttle tourists around town.

Thurman’s pedicabs, outfitted with 21 gears and hydraulic breaks, are designed for Asheville’s hills. Small motors Thurman ordered to assist drivers up some of the tougher inclines didn’t fit on the pedicabs, and she’s waiting for others to arrive.

In the meantime, drivers will have to provide the power to maneuver the cabs, which weigh 180 pounds without passengers, up and down the hills of Asheville.

Thurman hopes the three-wheeled pedicabs will fill a transportation niche in the city for both tourists and locals while providing a more environmentally friendly way to get around town.

The cabs will go where the city buses don’t and alleviate anxiety about finding a place to park, she said. They also will allow people to have a fun, unusual experience, said Ken Putnam, assistant director of transportation and engineering for the city.

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I live in Asheville and have seen them downtown. Also I have been a competitive cyclist all my life, am in fantastic shape, and have 20 years of serious cycling behind me. Still I cannot imagine riding a 200lb thing + passengers up these hills.

Many a time I have seen pudgy tourists having to take a break just walking up some of our streets.

Commuting to work 5 miles to by bike is not bad except bringing a complete change of clothes for 'professional office attire'.

I'm a veteran Hike-Biker. Asthma nails me sometimes and there's no benefit on staying on the wheels for some of the steeper hills. I used to do it A LOT while mountain biking when all I had was a Huffy 12 speed that was geared well - if you lived in a world that was perpetually downhill in all directions. That was back in the day when suspension systems only came on the front of the bike, were a total novelty, and had all of about 1" of travel - 18 speeds were common enough, 21 speeds were like some holy grail, and if the bike was under 30 pounds you were doing well. I used to pass people by walking the bike up steep grades...moseying by people pedal standing and spinning their tires. As far as the pedicabs I've yet to see one and I walk around downtown quite a bit. I imagine if it's geared well enough the weight isn't going to matter so much, no minimum speed is required to keep them upright, but you'd better be ready to accept SLOW. 100watts can only move a heavy object up a hill so fast.

Bicycle taxis are relatively common in places like Cambridge (UK) with young people looking for part time extra income (ie, students) but the current economics mean that they're more a novelty for tourists rather than a day-to-day transport system. (The other problem is that the width of the carriage means they've got much more width than a bicycle so they get stuck in traffic but don't have the speed and "endurance" of a fossil fuel vehicle.)

Somewhat retated...gas guzzling taxis cutting into the owners profits. Duh.

Rising gas prices hit taxi drivers
http://www.contracostatimes.com/ci_9788772?nclick_check=1

Seems like everyday my local newspaper is getting more like reading TOD. There are at least a half dozen energy fueled articles (pun intended).

http://www.contracostatimes.com/business/ci_9789078

Beverly Hillbillies' would be proud
Bloomberg News
Article Launched: 07/04/2008 04:54:54 PM PDT

Britney Spears, Jay Z, Adam Sandler and Plains Exploration and Production Co. have one thing in common. They've all been sighted at Beverly Center, an eight- level mall near Beverly Hills, where celebrities shop for clothes and the oil company pumps crude.

The rising price of oil, which hit a record $140 a barrel yesterday, has sent exploration companies scurrying to squeeze additional supplies from the fields underlying Los Angeles and its celebrity-rich neighbor.

Seems like everyday my local newspaper is getting more like reading TOD.

this is why I also think that oil is a mini-bubble. every day high gas prices are on the tv. every day there is a story in the paper about high gas prices or about local pizza joints beings squeezed by high prices. kunstler's article was even in the newspaper's sunday section.

O John, we know you're weakening. Come over to the Dark Side (dark crude, that is!)

Hate to burst your bubble. We've got you hooked. That's why you read TOD everyday. Bit like a narcotic - you can't do without your daily fix.

Cheers!

Mmmm Sprinkles..

*drools*

Hmm, in my case I stayed away for about four months and came back and not much really had changed, although admittedly john15 was new.

I go in phases of my own version of denial. Or rather trying to grasp onto life outside of an addictive blog setting :) . But for now, my computer way of life is still totally unnegotiable! (though something I consider eventually doing intellectually... somehow I lived a nice chunk of my life without instant access to information).

They exist but it's still a crazy expensive novelty at this point - you can get a ride around Central Park in NYC for $60 ... they're not competitive with the ICE cabs ... yet.

I saw one in Boston yesterday ... a single, lonely tourist attraction on a pier where lots of tourist cruises and one MBTA ferry dock.

BP has told investors that Thunder Horse will be the biggest field in the Gulf, with production estimates of 250,000 barrels of oil and 200m cu ft of gas a day. .... Then, as BP geared up to start the initial four wells that were planned to bring the field to production last month, the Financial Times learned it had discovered problems with three of them.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7a16ab6a-49f9-11dd-891a-000077b07658.html

Interesting. I hope it get picked up by a site without a paywall.

Hmmm ... I don't pay to access the site! I can copy more if you can't access it ... it is an interesting article.

FT.com has really funky rules. Someone said you're allowed to view 5 articles a month, and if you go over that, you're blocked. You can get around it by deleting your FT cookie.

And like the WSJ, you can see the article if you go in through Google News. So I can read it. I just wish it were at another site, because it's a lot easier to share the story if you don't have to jump through so many hoops.

Yahoo and MSNBC sometimes pick up FT articles, so there's hope.

There's an option to register with FT free of charge which allows viewing of 30 articles per month. Above 30 per month and it's necessary to subscribe.

I just copied the article off the FT web site, but am hesitant to send it to you as a post. Or, I can send it in as a post, and you can take it off before it goes up live...

I can copy it myself. I just want a free link I can post elsewhere, without telling people to clear their cookies or go in through Google News.

I'm stunned.

Thank you.

"And like the WSJ, you can see the article if you go in through Google News."

I usually copy a sentence from the article and paste it into a yahoo news or a yahoo web search and that often works.

I just google the headline, which is most often just carried over from the original article. Works 90% of the time...

I also can see it. I am logged into Financial Times with my free login though.

That article is a funny-sad story ... :-)

from the article

The Thunder Horse platform was supposed to begin producing in January 2005

flashback regarding Kashagan (discovered in 2000)

Kashagan is the giant oil field in the Caspian Sea that was supposed to start producing oil in 2005
Kashagan- first oil- is now postponed to 2013.

Is there a virus ?

But this one was worrysome -

....and the discovery that more than 100 anodes, anti-corrosive metal structures weighing up to 700 pounds each, had dropped off or required removal from the platform.

How much corrosion has the platform itself suffered due to this ?

My own favorite quote from the arrticle (last paragraph):

"While commissioning some of the wells, we encountered problems with some industry-standard equipment that we will repair," the company said. "We have time in the schedule to resolve these issues and the project remains on schedule."

They must have something which enables time travel back to 2005, at least, if the remain "on schedule."

With great hopes for Jack # 2, someday. Or Son of Jack # 2?

The thing shows Gigantism meeting reality.

BP has thrown multi billions at this thing and will not quit.

It's cursed. You can see it. Nothing has worked right from Day 1.

And I'm still waiting for pics from August 05 to Mar 06.

I expect nothing.

Pix like this ? Google Thunder Horse

almost. Right after Katrina. Like this:

http://mceer.buffalo.edu/research/Reconnaissance/Katrina8-28-05/01concra...

An offshore oil platform dislodged by Katrina’s high winds slammed into the Cochrane Bridge over Mobile Bay, damaging its cable system and concrete structure. The federal funds will reimburse the state for repairing the Bridge and for new ramps connecting U.S. 90 and Interstate 10, replacing or repairing damaged traffic signals and highway message signs, and the cost of clearing downed trees, sand and other debris from roads immediately after the storm.

The pics you show are all from Dennis damage.

problems with 3 wells ? what sort of problems? the article doesn't say.

problems with wells are the norm.

and finally from the ft article:

"We have time in the schedule to resolve these issues and the project remains on schedule."

well, in reality the "scedule" has already been pushed back at least 3 yrs.

give them a break, this project is on the leading edge of technology.

"...give them a break, this project is on the leading edge of technology."

Excuse me?

Well why doesn't BP give us a break.

You need details on Prudhoe Bay leaks, Texas Refinery killings (court docs on request), cornering the US propane market, and fuzzy math on reserves.

I can tell you there is severe dissent going on right now in BP over this.

TH project will have to downsized. And this is the point.

huge doesn't work any more, if it ever did. De centralization is the MEME
now. Multiple doable projects scattered, hitting critical mass.

Like the planet works, eh?

"You need details on Prudhoe Bay leaks, Texas Refinery killings (court docs on request), cornering the US propane market, and fuzzy math on reserves."

maybe bp SHOULD provide that information.

that has nothing to do with inventing technology that hasent been used. do you lack an understanding of the difficulty and complexity of bringing an oil or gas field large or small into production?

as long as motorists demand gas for their gas guzzling suv pleasure barges bp will try their best to provide it, $hit will happen.

would capt hazelwood have been drunk at the helm of the valdez if there wasnt demand for gasoline ?

"that has nothing to do with inventing technology that hasent been used."

I respectfully disagree.

If BP could, it would. Because it's having to turn to gangster type
activities to cover the fact that it's cutting edge activites
are turning into bleeding edge.

Technology is only a manifestation of the type of energy in use.

No more increasing of that energy, then no more increasing of that
technology.

"...would capt hazelwood have been drunk at the helm of the valdez if there wasnt demand for gasoline ?

Strange way to put it but I'll go along.

This is exactly why us Dirty Phuckin' Hippies scream to stop.

We know that a "Hazelwood" will happen. And betting the farm on a tech
like nuclear or shipping toxic waste (to an otter and it's food chain), which has a necessity of near perfect tolerance levels
spells Cascading Systems Failure.

Sobering implications for Petrobras, I would think.
Better spread that risk around.
I'm skeptical US refineries ever see one drop from Tupi.

sldulin : "I'm skeptical US refineries ever see one drop from Tupi", they will at $ 500-1000 /barrel in the holy year of 2030.

But then again I may be wrong b/c according to the BERR report discussed the other day , oil will only cost some $ 105 in 2030... 22 years from now.

More BERR : 22 years from now COAL will stay flat costing just the same .... and NAT.GAS will double its cost during these same 22 years. We have a NAT.GAS problem in other words, but if I'm not wrong there are forces in action dealing with this right now ..... the FORCE will bring the price down (again) to align with reality , forgodssake