DrumBeat: December 30, 2007
Posted by Leanan on December 30, 2007 - 9:53am
Topic: Miscellaneous
Carolyn Baker: New Year's Dissolution: Surrender vs. Gtiving Up
It's almost 2008, and in the final hours of 2007, I'm reflecting on the past twelve months and what may lie ahead of us in the coming year. It's been a dreary year for planet earth-scientists telling us that climate change has passed the point of no return; the almost-daily blasting away of civil liberties in the U.S. with nary a peep from its citizens; endless war that produces little but nauseating carnage in the Middle East and a steady stream of suiciding or physically and emotionally devastated veterans, and of course, a housing bubble burst that has left thousands of families suffocating in debt, bankruptcy, and foreclosure.Some readers would like me to stop talking about collapse and re-frame the notion into "spiritually correct" terminology that isn't as scary, daunting, and dismal. Many more of you are telling me that you do want to talk about collapse because even with all the opportunities for rebirth and transformation that it holds, the world we have known, demanded, and relied on to be there for us is crumbling. I too would love to focus only on opportunity, but opportunity offers no free lunch; it travels alongside this thing called collapse, and if you're going to embrace one, you must be prepared to invite the other.
In Units of Action, Not Just Talk, Oil Is Still King
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This year, there was plenty of talk about reducing oil consumption, but let’s face it: a lot of it was probably hot air. So it should come as no surprise that a new forecast of United States energy use through 2030 shows that energy consumption is expected to rise, and to be dominated by petroleum. |
Alarm at Gazprom's Serbia move
Gazprom's offer to take control of Serbia's state-owned petroleum monopoly has divided the Serbian government and sounded alarm bells about the cost of Moscow's political support.
Global gas lines remain pipedream
India’s plan to bring gas through international pipelines was reduced to mere pipe dreams in 2007. This year India lost Burma-India pipeline to China, is on the verge of being thrown out of Iran-Pakistan-India (IPI) pipeline and no one knows whether Turkmenistan-Afghanistan-Pakistan-India (TAPI) pipeline project is actually feasible.
Cyclone Veers Away from Australia's Northwest Coast
Oil companies have begun to resume production in Australia's remote northwest coast after government meteorologists on Sunday cancelled a cyclone warning for category two tropical cyclone Melanie.
Mexico Police Arrest Drunken Group Vandalizing Pemex Plant
Mexican authorities arrested at least 10 people vandalizing a Petroleos Mexicanos facility last week, the state-owned oil company said.The men were drunk and caused minor damage to a pipeline at the El Salitre plant in the central state of Guanajuato, said Carlos Ramirez, spokesman for the company, in a telephone interview.
Ramirez denied a report by the Mexico City-based newspaper El Universal that the group was trying to sabotage the facility, which was the target of bombings by a rebel group earlier this year.
Venezuela economy grew 8.4 pct in 2007-central bank
Venezuela's economy expanded 8.4 percent in 2007 despite a contraction in the oil sector, the backbone of the South American nation's economy, the central bank said on Sunday.The bank said the oil sector had shrunk 5.3 percent in the year, but 9.7 percent growth in non-oil parts of the economy had compensated.
Italy to Raise Power Rates 3.8%, Gas Prices 3.4% Next Month
Italy will raise electricity rates for households by an average 3.8 percent in the first quarter, following a surge in the price of oil.Oil sold in New York has risen almost 60 percent in the past year. Natural gas, the fuel used to produce more than half of Italy's electricity, tracks the price paid for petroleum. Italy imports more than 85 percent of the oil and gas needed to power the country, the Authority for Electricity and Gas said in an e-mailed statement late yesterday.
A plea for population control to save the Earth
Reversing global warming requires drastically reducing the consumption of fossil fuels. This means switching to sustainable sources of energy (wind, solar, biomass) and deploying more efficient technologies in transportation (hybrid cars and light rail), climate control (passive solar and better construction techniques), agricultural and manufacturing sectors of the economy.But we must also recognize that the swelling world population is the ultimate driver of global warming and exacerbates all of the other environmental problems we now face. Over-population promotes deforestation, air and water pollution, the production of carcinogens and toxins, soil erosion and the collapse of fisheries.
Young Swedes Flock to Newly Rich Norway for Work
Long a poor cousin in Scandinavia, Norway has surpassed Sweden to become one of the richest countries in the world — to the point where it has become a magnet for young Swedes ready to work hard to make quick money, and lots of it.
Iran says its first atom plant to start in mid-2008
Iran's first atomic power plant will start operating in mid-2008, Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki said on Sunday, two days after the country received a second delivery of nuclear fuel from Russia.
Uranium outlook remains strong
An Australian firm that tracks uranium trends worldwide expects a period characterized by relatively stable uranium spot market prices. But it's likely to be a brief interlude.Resource Capital Research of Sydney says forward indicators suggest the price will range between $90 and $100 per pound for several months, then accelerate to $125 by September 2008.
German Biodiesel Forced to Compete
Until a few months ago, the production of crop-based fuels was the best energy business imaginable in Germany, thanks to growing demand supported by the government. That's no longer the case.
Biofuels, the Biggest Scam Going
Where is agriculture headed? Can we feed a growing population and meet the demand for biofuels in the Industrialized North? Supporters of biofuel agriculture, (grain and chemical companies, Wall St. investors, politicians and most University researchers) avoid mentioning the cost of inputs, the fossil fuels, the environmental damage, the physical toll on animals and humans, and the growing problem of hunger that will accompany the switch from food to energy crop production. They want us to believe the switch to energy crops will be so easy and so practical.
Food security hobbles South Africa biofuel strategy
Worried that it may be seen as insensitive to the food needs of Africa, the South African government, which is facing a general election in 2009, has chosen food security in framing a biofuel policy.After months of dilly-dallying, a strategy for the biofuel sector was accepted by the Cabinet at the start of December. But the government excluded maize, a life-saving export during times of recurring drought in Southern Africa.
'Green fatigue' leads to fear of backlash over climate change
British people are now convinced about the dangers of global warming but are either baffled about how to stop it or are ignoring the issue.Analysts say few people are taking action to deal with the threat of climate change, although over the past 12 months the vast majority have come to accept that it poses a real threat to the world. Opinion polls reveal much confusion among the public about what Britain should do to combat the problem.
The climate threat to Japanese rice
In Japan government scientists are trying to find ways to reduce the impact of global warming on the country's rice crop.There are fears that the extremes of temperature that some researchers are predicting could affect both the yield and the quality of rice, a staple of the Japanese diet.
Flowering grain crops like maize, wheat and rice are particularly vulnerable to changes in temperature.
Pakistan: Oil stocks deplete as economic shutdown continues
The crippling effect of the complete economic shutdown following Benazir Bhutto's tragic assassination is likely to impact oil refining soon if supplies of crude and furnace oil are not restored, further complicating the overall supply situation and the worsening law and order, experts and officials say.The power crisis may worsen in the next couple of days as furnace oil supply is completely suspended and stocks would only last for a few days to continue electricity generation particularly for Punjab, NWFP and Balochistan.
Violence continued to grip the city on the third consecutive day on Saturday with 14 more deaths while hundreds were injured in separate incidents and shops, banks, factories and vehicles were torched. Four fire stations were also damaged with the Fire Office facing stiff resistance from miscreants in fighting fires.
Pakistan: Fuel shortage hits residents of twin cities
The fuel and food shortage in the twin cities of Islamabad and Rawalpindi is creating problems for the residents of the twin cities for the last three days.
A Question of Blame When Societies Fall
Dragoon is also home to an archaeological research center, the Amerind Foundation, where a group of archaeologists, cultural anthropologists and historians converged in the fall for a seminar, “Choices and Fates of Human Societies.”What the scientists held in common was a suspicion that in writing his two best-selling sagas of civilization — the other is “Guns, Germs and Steel” — Dr. Diamond washed over the details that make cultures unique to assemble a grand unified theory of history.
Kuwait''s state budget reveals more reliance on on oil revenues
Kuwait's state budget has revealed more dependence on oil revenues to make up for the deficit in the non-petroleum revenues which hit KD 9.3 billion, marking a rise of 53 percent compared to last year, the Kuwait Economic Society (KES) said on Sunday.
Iraq exports 58.9 mln bbl in November at $83.87
Iraq's monthly oil exports hit a three-year high of 58.900 million barrels in November, sold at an average price of $83.87 per barrel, the Oil Ministry said on Sunday.
India's population will harm the country and the planet
Population Control is one of India's most colossal failures, and has in the recent past been touted as a demographic dividend it will reap as the world ages. This view is over-simplistic and ignores the bigger picture.
Qatar: Imported farm products likely to cost more
Agricultural and associated products from Brazil and some other countries in the region may cost more in the near future as these countries are busy developing bio-fuel as an alternative source of energy, according to a senior business executive here.
No gas supply surprise from Russia in 2008
Russian political pragmatism is not to cause breaks in energy supplies to the CIS and European countries.Russia and its energy partners are likely to see in 2008 without a usual energy crisis and supply cuts for the first time since 2005. This year Gazprom has done its best to avoid conflicts after the negative reaction to its failure to agree with Ukraine and Belarus the recent years, when the negotiations were held up to the first minutes of a new year.
Part of BPA Credit Could Return Soon
Bonneville Power Administration’s Residential Exchange Program was created to ensure small-farm and residential customers of investor-owned utilities in the Northwest share in the benefits of the region’s federal hydroelectric system.That it did. But when it was halted for the first time in 30 years last summer because of a federal court decision, those customers saw their power bills rise, in some cases drastically.
Reid, Congress deserves praise for keeping Yucca nuke dump at bay
Congress, led by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., gave Nevada a most welcome Christmas present earlier this month by slashing the budget for the proposed Yucca Mountain nuclear waste dump by more than 12 percent to its lowest level in several years. Although I disagree with Sen. Reid on many issues, including illegal immigration and Iraq, we owe him and Congress a vote of thanks for keeping nearly 80 million tons of highly toxic nuclear waste out of the Silver State.
Pair hope meeting on alternative fuels will spark advances
Karrer and Robey expect the meeting to attract not only a few inventors and researchers who have studied high-mileage carburetors and cars that run on various other fuels, but a number of people who hope to learn more about experiments being done by private inventors.
Surge in Off-Roading Stirs Dust and Debate in West
The growing allure of the federal lands coincides with marked changes in how people play, with outdoor recreation now a multibillion-dollar industry. It also comes at a time, according to data compiled by Volker C. Radeloff of the University of Wisconsin, when more than 28 million homes sit less than 30 miles from federally owned land that millions of people increasingly view as their extended backyards.
On the Ground and in the Water, Tracing a Giant Wave’s Path
After a tsunami swept across the Indian Ocean in 2004 and killed an estimated 300,000 people in Indonesia, Thailand and Sri Lanka, Dr. Fernando used his amazing piece of equipment to determine why the wave was so lethal.He and colleagues confirmed that human activities at southern Asian seashores — like coral poaching, dune destruction and mangrove harvesting — had made a natural disaster even more deadly.
Beijing’s Olympic Quest: Turn Smoggy Sky Blue
Every day, monitoring stations across the city measure air pollution to determine if the skies above this national capital can officially be designated blue. It is not an act of whimsy: with Beijing preparing to play host to the 2008 Olympic Games, the official Blue Sky ratings are the city’s own measuring stick for how well it is cleaning up its polluted air.
Conserving Cuba, After the Embargo
Cuba has not been free of development, including Soviet-style top-down agricultural and mining operations and, in recent years, an expansion of tourism. But it also has an abundance of landscapes that elsewhere in the region have been ripped up, paved over, poisoned or otherwise destroyed in the decades since the Cuban revolution, when development has been most intense. Once the embargo ends, the island could face a flood of investors from the United States and elsewhere, eager to exploit those landscapes.
Pleasure Without Guilt: Green Hotels With Comfort
The idea of luxury has long been intertwined with — even confused with — profligate waste. But with green consciousness making its way to center stage, some hotels are changing their ways. They face a delicate balance: when does greening go so far as to cut palpably into the feeling of luxury?
What the Fundamentals Say About Future Oil Prices
My thesis is based in part on the hoarding mindset that now dominates the oil market and is hardly ever discussed. Exporters (read OPEC, particularly KSA, UAE, Kuwait, and Venezuela) are now addicted to high and rising oil prices. Their ever increasing cash flows from oil have led to their making huge future capital commitments; they are not willing to see falling oil prices endanger those commitments. They also know that due to tight global supplies relatively minor production cuts are sufficient to raise prices. Finally they now believe that oil in the out years will only get more expensive. Thus near term production cuts will also be rewarded because the oil not sold now can be sold later for more money. In summary, exporters today have their hands on a hair-trigger for raising the oil price and they will not hesitate to pull it if the price falls much below $85. I summarize this series of attitudes on the part of oil exporters as the “hoarding mindset.”
2008, a Year of Petroleum Exuberance
We will witness the dawning of an era of exuberance regarding matters petroleum, a time of optimism comparable to the Roaring Twenties and the recently expired housing boom that was inflated by phony mortgages. Peak-oil theorists, those people foolish enough to believe that a nonrenewable resource is eventually exhaustible, will be vilified as alarmists. American consumers, mollified by falling petroleum prices and the promised availability of more exploitable oil reserves, will breathe sighs of relief. And they will spend the summer before November's elections wrestling with issues of gravitas, such as whether our presidential candidates, Democrat and Republican, support the right of adults to marry whom they choose to marry.
There are three things that keep me up nights: the threat of climate change, peak oil and the mountaintop removal strip mining that is destroying Appalachia. And I have reached the conclusion that, here in the United States, there are three major causes of these problems: Our homes are too big, our food travels too far, and our entire economy is built around the automobile. American homes are twice as big as they were 30 years ago, though fewer people actually live in them. The average item on a supermarket shelf has logged 1,500 miles to get there. And the homogenous suburb has ensured that we must drive everywhere, destroying at once the traditional, walkable city and the surrounding rural landscapes. Thus we have created a consumer culture that much of the developing world -- most ominously, China -- wants to emulate. But the problem is that this culture is based entirely on carbon-emitting fossil fuels, and it is therefore a culture that has no future.
China and India to shrug off US recession
Next year, the growing - and increasingly wealthy populations of the developing world will keep global food demand rising. Global supplies - hit by more droughts, floods and the increased use of land for bio-fuel production - will struggle to keep up.That's why, in 2008, high food prices will replace expensive oil as the bogeyman of Western consumers and central bankers. Because food accounts for a large portion of disposable incomes, escalating food prices will seriously dent consumer confidence next year, while preventing deep base rate cuts.
Oil investing: 2007 a tough act to follow
2007 was truly a banner year for the industry. The big integrated oil companies - ones that produce and refine crude - saw stock gains in the 30 percent range. Crude itself rose nearly 60 percent. The biggest winners were the oil production companies, some of which saw their stock prices double. Overall, the AMEX oil and gas index rose about 30 percent in '07, trouncing the near-stagnant S&P 500.But most analysts say 2008 is unlikely to mimic the staggering returns of the last year. And on the heels of such a runup, some say the sector is simply overvalued.
Bin Laden remarks make Gulf dollar peg likelier
Gulf Arab oil producers may be less likely to drop their currency pegs to the weak U.S. dollar after Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden criticized dollar pegs as "unjust and arbitrary", economists said on Sunday.The Saudi-born militant leader urged Muslims in a video recording on Saturday to support militants so they can "preserve your oil and wealth and protect your money that is slipping between your fingers due to the unjust and arbitrary dollar pegs."
Japan dependence on Kuwait, GCC oil down
Japan’s crude oil imports from Kuwait went down 1.2 percent in November from a year earlier to 9.15 million barrels but increased 10.3 percent from the previous month, according to the latest data released by a government agency. Kuwait provided 7.0 percent of nation’s crude oil in the reporting month, compared with 6.4 percent in October and 7.5 percent in the same month of last year, the Japanese Natural Resources and Energy Agency, a unit of the Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry, said in a preliminary report. Japan is Kuwait’s largest oil buyer.
Supply of drilling rig to usher a new beginning of Sino-Pak cooperation in Oil and Gas-HH
The fully digitally controlled Oil and Gas drilling rig manufactured by a prominent Sichuan based Chinese company would be ready for delivery to Mari Gas Company Ltd. (MGCL) next month thus meeting the increasing demand of the rigs to help boost exploration and production activities in Pakistan, a senior official of the company said.
Oil Exploration Conflict With Iraq Corners SK Energy
SK Energy is still mulling over a tough call between discontinuing oil exploration in the Kurdish region and losing Iraqi oil imports. The nation's top oil refiner has been cornered to make this decision after a conflict that surfaced last week when an angered Iraqi government threatened to cut off crude exports should the Korea-Kurds oil deal continue.
Alaska: Oil companies will stay, revenue commissioner says
The three major oil companies that operate on Alaska's North Slope say they are reviewing their investments in Alaska now that they'll have to pay more taxes, but state Revenue Commissioner Pat Galvin on Friday treated the statements as a bluff."We believe that the incentives that are included in the tax program, the resources that are available on the North Slope, and the tremendous value that oil is getting in the market right now are all reasons why Alaska will remain a very attractive place to invest," he said. "I don't expect to see a reduction in investment, given the attractiveness of Alaska."
Global warming to alter Calif. landscape
California is defined by its scenery, from the mountains that enchanted John Muir to the wine country and beaches that define its culture around the world.But as scientists try to forecast how global warming might affect the nation's most geographically diverse state, they envision a landscape that could look quite different by the end of this century, if not sooner.
2007 a year of weather records in U.S.
When the calendar turned to 2007, the heat went on and the weather just got weirder. January was the warmest first month on record worldwide — 1.53 degrees above normal. It was the first time since record-keeping began in 1880 that the globe's average temperature has been so far above the norm for any month of the year.And as 2007 drew to a close, it was also shaping up to be the hottest year on record in the Northern Hemisphere.




From "What the Fundamentals Say. . . " uptop:
As Matt Simmons has pointed out, gasoline at the pump is currently priced at about $300 per barrel in some areas in Europe.
Interesting that the Millennium Institute T21-USA model calls for $350/barrel oil in 2011. However, the economy "cracks" that year and oil falls to below $200 in 2012 due to "reduced economic activity" conserving oil and reducing demand. By the end of 2012, oil is above $200/barrel and never drops that far again.
I saw a curve you had prepared by Khebab of a price range in Houston. I would find that of interest.
Best Hopes for Wendi & Brian (inside comment for the time being, more later),
Alan
They are really cool people, and we had a very good visit with them. They are now northbound, hoping to link up with PG.
In the old Maya culture, the end of the current world cycle (which lasted more than 5000 years) is the winter solstice 2012. How fitting ! :)
Seriously, we need alternatives NOW !
Seriously, we need alternatives NOW !
We have PLENTY of alternatives:
Powerdown
War (vs buying things via the petrodollar/trade)
Less consumption
Less population
Most people don't like such alternatives.
http://www.siam.org/news/news.php?id=827
Eigenvalues. Fixed points. Stable equilibria. Mathematicians like things that stay put. And if they can't stay put, the objects of study should at least repeat themselves on a regular basis, like orbiting planets or populations of predators and prey. Even in the case of chaotic systems, mathematicians have traditionally gravitated toward invariant features, such as strange attractors, stable manifolds, and periodic points.
What makes this tradition possible is that dynamical systems---at least the ones mathematicians favor---are governed by equations that depend on time either cyclically or not at all. But nature doesn't always oblige. Many phenomena require equations whose coefficients are non-periodic functions of time. Indeed, many---arguably most---phenomena can be described not by equations at all, but only as an amalgam of time-varying data.
http://www.larouchepac.com/news/2007/12/28/larouche-whole-operation-paki...
"People are being idiots," he said, "because they say, well, `You can't say that! Let's concentrate on the facts. Let's concentrate on the facts,' is what they'll say. Now here you have, the fact is, we're in the point of a total breakdown of the international financial and monetary system. This is not a collapse; this is not a depression. It's a disintegration of the very integument upon which the whole civilization has now come to depend. That's the game. And, any developments which don't fit the game, don't explain this kind of thing. It's one thing after the other; it's a chaos operation. The tendency is to create chaos; it's a chaos operation. So, therefore, in a chaos operation,-- don't try to attribute chaos, to some individual who's not chaos.
"We don't know who the culprit is; we don't know which faction, who is the faction," LaRouche concluded. "We can identify the faction by the nature of the faction. But the identity of the faction, we don't have. The guy who's doing this, is doing something. We know what they're doing; we know what the effect is they're playing for. That's clear. WHO that someone is, we don't have."
chaotic systems have "attractors" or stable repeating phenomena by definition, pattern just has to be discovered.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory
Cool to read up on this.
In quantum mechanics when a quanta is released/absorbed the energy of the particle goes up/down one whole step. A gradual change from point A to B does not happen. I don't see why it should not so happen in economic cricumstances when the enrgy goes out of the system all at once. We fall to a new steady state. Economists, stock market watchers and historians have observed lots of chaotic patterns in history, the chaotic "attractors" seem to be similar to the seasons, 4 year cycle, average human life span, civilizational cycle, etc. If Larouche can't find a cyclical ("chaotic") pattern in this systemic breakdown which fits he could read Diamond.
What you are discribing is a State Change or Phase Change, Like when a whole school of fish suddenly turn right.
Liquid to solid. All at once.
Complex Systems Break Down Chaoticly
Chaotically, and in our case due to multiple forces of environmental friction and degradation, rapidly.
Lyndon LaDouche.
I sure hope you are making sweet, sweet fun of that lunatic by posting his ravings.
While what he says may or may not come to pass, it will not be due to anything he posits.
For more fun info about this fascist demagogue:
http://www.publiceye.org/larouche/
I stand with him when he's correct.
The clearest statement yet on chaos theory and the Power Laws in relation to human self organized criticality.
With chaos theory you have attractors or repellers.
The attractors, as noted above by GS in this thread, are most easily seen-as in smoke rings (the smoke particles adhere to the vapor ring).
Less easily seen are the repellers-the force leaks or repels,
say, liquid particles (blood, for instance).
You can only "see" the repellers from "future rewind".
Think an eddy. The blood hits the eddy before traveling to,
say, the face instead of the brain. Which way will the blood flow?
Same with LaRouche's statement. A repeller is forcing
chaos into a new steady state.
Ok I reread the Larouche quote then your suff again and I got the message. Thanks. Repellers forcing inot a new steady state, very good. I keep learning at TOD all the time.
Most people don't like such alternatives...
Guess you are talking about those less than 5% of the world population that just happen to live in the US ? :)
The same that consume 25% of the world's oil ? Maybe the rest of the world will adapt more easily actually ?
Exactly, STS. Thanks for saying it.
Just Heard this song on NPR: I think that if we are going to choose to listen to someone other than Uncle Dave we will surely end up nude in a cave without food. It's time to take Uncle Dave seriously. He's not a manic depressive, just a freakin realist.
Uncle Dave's Grace: lyrics by Peter Berryman, music by Lou Berryman
"We gather together to ask the Lord's blessing" Thanksgiving day, Uncle Dave was our guest
He reads the Progressive which makes him depressed
We asked Uncle Dave if he'd like to say grace,
A dark desolation crept over his face
"Thanks," he began as he gazed at his knife,
"To poor Mr. Turkey for living his life
All crowded and cramped in a great metal shed
Where life was a drag then they cut off his head"
"Thanks," he went on, "for the grapes in my wine
Picked by sick women of seventy-nine
Scrambling all morning for bunch after bunch
Then brushing the pesticides off of their lunch
Thanks for the stuffing all heaped on my fork
Shiny with sausage descended from pork
I think of the trucks full of full of pigs that I see
And can't help imagine what they think of me"
Continuing, "I'd like to thank if you please
Our salad bowl hacked out of tropical trees
And for this mahogany table and chair
We thank all the jungles that used to be there
For cream in our coffee and milk in our mugs,
We thank all the cows full of hormones and drugs
Whose calves are removed at a very young age
And force-fed as veal in a minuscule cage"
"Oh thanks for the furnace that heats up these rooms
And thanks for the rich fossil fuel it consumes
Corrupting the atmosphere ounce after ounce
But we're warm and toasty and that is what counts
I'm grateful," he said, "for these clothes on my back
Lovely and comfy and cheap off the rack
Fashioned in warehouses noisy and cold
In China by seamstresses seven years old"
"And thanks for my silverware setting that shines
In memory of miners who died in the mines
Worn down by the shovelling of tailings in piles
Whose runoff destroys all the rivers for miles
We thank the reactors for our chandelier
Although the plutonium won't disappear
For hundreds of decades it still will be there
But a few more Chernobyls and who's gonna care?"
Sighed Uncle Dave, "though there's more to be told
The wine's getting warm and the bird's getting cold"
And with that he sat down as he mumbled again
"Thank you for everything, amen"
We felt so guilty when he was all thru
It seemed there was one of two things we could do
Live without food, in the nude, in a cave,
Or next year have someone say grace besides Dave.
122112
Now that's a magic number.
http://www.levity.com/eschaton/Why2012.html
So that Solaris can then walk across the Milky Way "path"
to Polarus.
Starting the new Age of Aquarius.
Thank you, GS
Did you read Polaris or see the original Russian film or just the recent hollywood version?
Are those in real 2007 US$ or nominal? If those are real, the actual numbers might have to be adjusted upwards for inflation by another 10%+ per year the way things are going.
Exactly.
As in, what will a bottle of beer cost at the
same time.
Or, Sudan changes over to the Euro from the $.
I found that to be a excellent analysis, I was impressed. But then, I read the first comment, and, ...wow..."...Capitalism has always worked...capitalism + technology = lower prices for everything--everything....tulips, oil, dot-com, housing-energy will be next."
It's what we're up against- an almost religious belief that 'capitalism' trumps geology, trumps climatology, trumps physics. It's 'magical' thinking-- waiting for the 'invisible hand' to bring these prices down.
Can't reason with people that invest capitalism with supernatural powers. It's a stubborn belief.
My guess is 2008 we will have continued high prices and the cargo-cultists themselves won't lose credibility.
Gas prices will stay high and the capitalism-cultists will say the answer is obvious- "More Capitalism!!"
Yeah. The Easter Islanders' reaction to impending collapse was to build even bigger stone statues. I expect we'll do the same. When capitalism doesn't work, the solution will be more capitalism. Environmentalists, government regulations, and NOCs will get the blame for "not letting capitalism work."
Yes I seem to remember reading in one of Thor Heyerdahl's books that the biggest statue of all was one that was still not completely finished. This means they were in the process of making it when their society collapsed and the work stopped.
You're right, though I read it 40 years ago I do remember that. Thanks, that's a wonderful observation to bring up in this context.
I think we should all start building giant stone heads again. Not only would be every bit as useful as most of what we're doing, but it would be cool on so many levels.
I want one.
Hello Greenish,
What I think would be really cool would be the massive stockpiling of organic and inorganic NPK, grain reserves, strategic reserves of bicycles & wheelbarrows & canoes, and the building of massive SpiderWebriding canal networks as outlined in my prior postings.
Worship of vital biosolar mission-critical items will get us further down the decline path in a more optimal fashion than dancing around stone carvings.
Although, I will grant that carving heads in the likeness of failed postPeak politicians may serve a humanure recycling purpose. Recall my previous post on animal territorial boundary marking by urination and defecation; a good way to move nutrients far from polluting water sources.
Angry postPeakers might be willing to hike the extra mile to piss or poop on these designated 'shitheads'.
Bob Shaw in Phx,Az Are Humans Smarter than Yeast?
Hey there Bob.
I agree with you entirely. The reason for building stone heads would be in the nature of performance art. A reductio ad absurdum visual aid for those who are ironically impaired when it comes to perspective on our industrialized creation of clutter. Every stone head would get local and perhaps national press, and the message would be that we're on the same path as the Easter islanders. (whether or not it happened as Diamond said, it's a good meme-set).
If there were ever to be a peak oil mascot, he should have the classic stone-head features.
I don't personally have the excess energy to carve a stone head, so perhaps I'll just have "Look upon my works, ye mighty, and despair" silkscreened on my speedo.
VIRAL SUGGESTION: get stencils and start spray-painting easter island heads on SUV's in tacky-colored paint. (always obey local laws and secure permission from the owners beforehand).
Homer-Dixon found a temple likewise abandoned. If I remember, a piece of marble something like 450 tons. He discusses it in Upside.
The whole angle where the PTBs - and maybe society as a (w)hole - try every harder to do what doesn't work fascinates me. Even now one can see that the "solutions" being advanced in the mainstream only make things worse.
cfm in Gray, ME
Its likely to be the exact opposite: Socialism! When things get tough, politicians promise more handouts and more subsidies as a means to get elected. "Vote for me, and I will give everyone free food/gas/whatever, but you'll need to give me more authority so I can end corruption/other lame excuse for more centralized control"
This usually causes a transition away from free markets into centralized control which can lead to totalitarianism. The countries with the highest levels of socialism and central control are the first candidates to fall into Totalitarianism. I believe at least some of Europe will swing this way. I think the US will become decentralized as Washington remains a quagmire and states are force to pick up more an more responibilty as Washington falls to accomplish anything. Another words I expect the United States to become the Divided States of America.
It could be argued, and many have argued, that rather than 'free markets' we now have centralized control where control is in the hands of large banks and multi-national corporations. This is a de-facto form of totalitarianism already and appears to me to be getting worse as economies weaken.
It never ceases to bother me how people continually ignore the fact that the arguably best societies to live in today in terms of quality-of-life measures such as health care, education, low crime rate, high standard of living, are societies that are a healthy mix of socialism, free markets and democracy. About 99% of the socialism bashing I've seen on the web is totally ignorant about the current state of socialism as it is actually practiced.
Yes, but I think that, like the happy motoring lifestyle, is a brief artifact of the Age of Oil.
I hate the whole happy motoring phrase. we get it, you don't like cars and mock the idea that we were stupid enough to drive them. you're above us.
happy motoring is not dead, it's just going electric. what makes you think we need to power our cars with gas? my computer doesn't need a gas tank. my cell phone doesn't need one. my tv doesn't need one.
future generations will look back and laugh at the ICE. they'll wonder why we used such an inefficient motor with such a dirty fuel. we read on our laptop computers about computers that used to take up a whole block.