The National Petroleum Council Report
Posted by Stuart Staniford on July 21, 2007 - 9:59pm
Topic: Supply/Production
Tags: National Petroleum Council, peak oil [list all tags]

Update: Webcast of the presentation here, though it's badly edited. (E.g., one has to wait 15 minutes to hear Mr Raymond begin speaking). Executive summary here (very slow download right now) and the 422 page full report (BIG .pdf warning) here.
The National Petroleum Council (NPC), a federally chartered and privately funded advisory committee, was established by the Secretary of the Interior in 1946 at the request of President Harry S. Truman. In 1977, the U.S. Department of Energy was established and the NPC’s functions were transferred to the new Department. The purpose of the NPC is solely to represent the views of the oil and natural gas industries in advising, informing, and making recommendations to the Secretary of Energy with respect to any matter relating to oil and natural gas, or to the oil and gas industries submitted to it or approved by the Secretary.Ok, so we're asking the oil and gas industry, who make their living by selling us oil and gas, whether there might any problem with the supply of oil and gas. I don't know what Secretary Bodman was expecting, but in his place I would have expected to get a sales pitch for buying more oil and gas. Given that very low expectation, the report is better than one might have feared. However, it's still pretty biassed, and fails to address the Secretary's questions.
An aside to Secretary Bodman: next time try the National Academies.
Anyway, continuing, the NPC put together a crack team of industry executives and consultants to answer the question of whether they could continue to deliver us enough oil and gas or not. (I should note here that my comments are based on a June 29th draft of the Executive Summary. I was one of the hundreds of persons consulted by the NPC, though not one of the ones who they paid much attention too, it seems. I'm assuming the final version will be on their website by the time you read this).
Here's the folks who ran the study:
There will be a large, unprecedented buildup of oil supply in the next few years. Between 2004 and 2010, capacity to produce oil (not actual production) could grow by 16 million barrels a day -- from 85 million barrels per day to 101 million barrels a day -- a 20 percent increase. Such growth over the next few years would relieve the current pressure on supply and demand...Well, the "not speculative" forecast, made in July 2005, is not looking too good so far:While questions can be raised about specific countries, this forecast is not speculative. It is based on what is already unfolding. The oil industry is governed by a "law of long lead times." Much of the new capacity that will become available between now and 2010 is under development. Many of the projects that embody this new capacity were approved in the 2001-03 period, based on price expectations much lower than current prices....
But at least for the next several years, the growing production capacity will take the air out of the fear of imminent shortage. And that in turn will provide us the breathing space to address the investment needs and the full panoply of technologies and approaches -- from development to conservation -- that will be required to fuel a growing world economy, ensure energy security and meet the needs of what is becoming the global middle class.

Of the 16mbd of new capacity over five years, after two years we have seen somewhere between zero (EIA), or 1mbd (IEA) of new production. Not a good start, and it certainly hasn't been enough to "take the air out of the fear of imminent shortage" as Mr Yergin promised us.
So you get the idea: the NPC put together a team who have a track record of being relentlessly overoptimistic, and the absolute trailing edge of concern about oil supply issues. What did they have to say?
During the last quarter-century, world energy demand has increased about 60 percent, supported by a global infrastructure that has expanded to a massive scale. Now, most forecasts for the next quarter-century project a similar percentage increase in energy demand from a much larger base. Oil and natural gas have played a significant role in supporting economic activity in the past, and will likely continue to do so in combination with other energy types. Over the coming decades, the world will need better energy efficiency and all economic, environmentally responsible energy sources available to support and sustain future growth.So, we could summarize this as "Peak oil is nowhere in sight; we think we can continue to grow oil supply in coming decades as we have in recent decades, but it's getting trickier and you a) better be prepared to grant all our various requests for assistance in pulling it off, and b) should start trying to use less of our products in case we can't quite manage it".Fortunately, the world is not running out of energy resources. But many complex challenges could keep these diverse energy resources from becoming the sufficient, reliable, and economic energy supplies upon which people depend. These challenges are compounded by emerging uncertainties: geopolitical influences on energy development, trade, and security; and increasing constraints on carbon dioxide emissions that could impose changes in future energy use. While risks have always typified the energy business, they are now accumulating and converging in new ways.
The National Petroleum Council (NPC) examined a broad range of global energy supply, demand, and technology projections through 2030. The Council identified risks and challenges to a reliable and secure energy future, and developed strategies and recommendations aimed at balancing future economic, security, and environmental goals.
The United States and the world face hard truths about the global energy future over the next 25 years:
- Coal, oil, and natural gas will remain indispensable to meeting total projected energy demand growth.
- The world is not running out of energy resources, but there are accumulating risks to continuing expansion of oil and natural gas production from the conventional sources relied upon historically. These risks create significant challenges to meeting projected energy demand.
- To mitigate these risks, expansion of all economic energy sources will be required, including coal, nuclear, renewables, and unconventional oil and natural gas. Each of these sources faces significant challenges – including safety, environmental, political, or economic hurdles – and imposes infrastructure requirements for development and delivery.
- "Energy Independence" should not be confused with strengthening energy security. The concept of energy independence is not realistic in the foreseeable future, whereas U.S. energy security can be enhanced by moderating demand, expanding and diversifying domestic energy supplies, and strengthening global energy trade and investment. There can be no U.S. energy security without global energy security.
- A majority of the U.S. energy sector workforce, including skilled scientists and engineers, is eligible to retire within the next decade. The workforce must be replenished and trained.
- Policies aimed at curbing carbon dioxide emissions will alter the energy mix, increase energy-related costs, and require reductions in demand growth.
So this is undoubtedly some kind of progress. The fact that the trailing edge of the debate is now officially calling for efficiency and conservation measures is a big deal and good progress. But I still think these guys are a long way from making contact with reality. CEO's are supposed to set impossible goals and then exhort the troops to meet them, and that's what we have here, I think, from this group of oil company CEO's.
My bias is to look at the graphs and tables rather than the words. There aren't too many in this report, but the ones they do have are very revealing.
Middle East Reserves
A major concern with the NPC report is its failure to take seriously the potential concerns with Middle Eastern oil reserves. As figure ES-6 of the Executive Summary makes clear, almost all the growth in oil export capacity that the report assumes by 2030 is anticipated to come from the Middle East:

Note that Asia, North America, and Europe all grow their imports significantly, while Latin America, Africa, and Russia increase exports only slightly. The Middle East is required to increase exports massively to balance the books. This is no doubt predicated on the claims that two-thirds of the world’s oil reserves are in that region (eg see the BP Statistical Review of World Energy 2007). However, it needs to be realized that there are serious long-standing concerns about whether these reserves exist in the amounts claimed. For example, in the 2005 World Energy Outlook, the International Energy Agency writes on pages 125-128:
There are doubts about the reliability of official MENA reserves estimates, which have not been audited by independent auditors…The reserves data for the five main Middle Eastern oil producing countries are shown in this next graph:MENA proven oil reserves increased sharply in the 1980s and, after a period during which they hardly increased, rose further around the turn of the century. From around 400 billion barrels at the start of the 1980s, reserves ballooned to almost 700 billion barrels by 1989 and reached nearly 800 billion barrels at the end of 2004... Most of these increases occurred in the Middle East. In the second half of the 1980s, Saudi Arabia and Kuwait revised their reserves upwards by about one-half. The United Arab Emirates and Iraq also recorded large upward revisions at that time. Total Middle East reserves jumped from 398 billion barrels in 1985 to 663 billion barrels in 1990. As a result, world oil reserves increased by more than 40%.
This dramatic and sudden revision in MENA reserves has been much debated. It reflected partly the shift in ownership of reserves away from international oil companies, some of which were obliged to report reserves under strict US Securities and Exchange Commission rules. The revision was also prompted by discussions among OPEC countries over setting production quotas based, at least partly, on reserves. What is clear is that the revisions in official data had little to do with the actual discovery of new reserves. Total reserves in many MENA countries hardly changed in the 1990s. Official reserves in Kuwait, for example, were unchanged at 96.5 billion barrels (including its share of the Neutral Zone) from 1991 to 2002, even though the country produced more than 8 billion barrels and did not make any important new discoveries during that period. The case of Saudi Arabia is even more striking, with proven reserves estimated at between 258 and 262 billion barrels in the past 15 years, a variation of less than 2%.

This clearly shows the very strange pattern of reserve updates, which is quite unlike reserve histories in western countries that wander up and down year-by-year as oil is consumed and new discoveries are made and additional recovery projects are implemented.
Recently, data is starting to come to light that suggests that not all these reserves additions were appropriate. For example, in 2006, Petroleum Intelligence Weekly obtained a 2001 document from the Kuwait Oil Company which suggested that remaining proven plus probable oil reserves there were only about half of the official number for proven reserves. This has now been somewhat confirmed by the Kuwaiti Oil Minister, with the Kuwait Times reporting earlier this year: “Sheikh Ali also confirmed to Al-Wasat newspaper that the state's proven oil reserves have fallen to 48 billion barrels, as reported last year by Petroleum Intelligence Weekly, down from an announced 100 billion barrels.”
In the case of Saudi Arabia, concern that future production would be limited has existed since at least 1979, when a Senate Subcommittee Staff report on the subject stated, after extensive interviews with the American oil company executives managing the country’s fields at that time:
Saudi Arabia’s decision to cut back its producing target to 12 mmbd was significantly influenced by the conclusion that higher production rates would require costly investments and might not be maintained for a period of time acceptable to Saudi Arabia. The oil production level that can be maintained until it begins to decline to lower levels is known as the “production plateau.” The plateau that the Arabian American Oil Company (Aramco) now uses as a basis for its planning indicates that a rate of 12 mmbd may last 15-20 years before irreversibly declining, a period Saudi Arabia now finds uncomfortably short. Higher rates, such as 16 mmbd, could only be maintained for a shorter period of time before declining. Moreover, the prospect of future discoveries in Saudi Arabia is highly uncertain. In addition, technical problems have complicated the management of the oil fields since the early 1970’s. Taking into account all these factors, it would be imprudent for the United States to plan on a change in Saudi Arabian oil development plans to increase long-term production above 12mmbd. The current plan of a target capacity of 12 mmbd achieved no earlier than 1987 is a considerable change from an earlier one which envisioned a capacity of 16mmbd in 1983.In fact, due to a combination of lower production (via the demand collapse of the 1980s), and technology that allows oil operators to both increase recovery and maintain plateau until a field is more deeply depleted, Saudi Arabia has still been able to produce over 9mbpd in recent years, more than 25 years after the words above were written. However, is it at all prudent to assume that now, at this late stage, production can be increased significantly more than was thought feasible in 1979, and continue for decades more? That is what the NPC report would have you believe.
More recently, Matt Simmons, in his book Twilight in the Desert has documented in great detail that extensive exploration efforts have only found modest amounts of new oil discoveries, just as Aramco executives predicted in the late 1970s. Thus Saudi production still comes from the same handful of giant fields it was coming from in 1979, most of which are now quite mature. In particular, recent research here at The Oil Drum has shown that the northern half of Ghawar, which historically accounted for 4mbd of Saudi production, is significantly more depleted than Saudi Aramco has revealed, and production from this part of the field cannot be maintained much longer at recent levels. This raises the question of whether the development of other fields that Saudi Arabia is now undertaking will be sufficient to increase overall capacity, or only offset declines in north Ghawar. This may be in part why Saudi Arabia has not been able to increase production since 2004, which has had a great deal to do with the fact that global oil production has not increased appreciably in the last two years.
It seems to me that this issue is of central importance to global oil reserves and production capacity. Given the fact that most of the relevant data are closely held state secrets of the countries in question, I can see that reasonable people might hold a different view than me about the amount of oil remaining in the Middle East, and the potential for production increases. However, the fact that the issue is not even flagged to the reader of the executive summary of the NPC report suggests the degree of bias that pervades that document.
Reliance on Undiscovered Oil
Not only is much of the growth in oil anticipated to come from the Middle East, where it is unclear whether the oil exists, and whether the region will be stable enough to produce it, but it is also mainly not yet discovered:

As you can see, the growth in total liquids supply comes by and large from about 40mbd of "Exploration Potential". Now, to put this in context OPEC liquids production at the moment, according to Table 16 of the OPEC Monthly Oil Market Report (PDF)) is just around 30mbd. So the NPC wants us to believe that there is a whole other OPEC plus a third waiting to be discovered.
If that doesn't sound too likely to you, you're not alone. The ASPO curve for the trend in oil discoveries shows a peak back in the 1960s, with gradual downtrend ever since:

So in summary, the NPC report is saying that production will increase by around 25% over the next twenty five years, but this increase is entirely reliant on finding large amounts of new oil, mainly in the Middle East. Unfortunately, it is rather unlikely that the existing claims of oil reserves in the Middle East are true, and even less likely that massive amounts more oil can be found there. Even if it could, the Middle East is the least politically stable region of the world, and relying ever more heavily on it for critical inputs to our economy is likely to be fairly painful at regular intervals.
However, their number one recommendation on the demand side is:
Based on a detailed review of technological potential, a doubling of fuel economy of new cars and light-trucks by 2030 is possible through the use of existing and anticipated technologies, assuming vehicle performance and other attributes remain the same as today. The 4 percent annual gain in CAFE standards starting in 2010 that President George W. Bush suggested in his 2007 State of the Union speech is not inconsistent with a potential doubling of fuel economy for new light duty vehicles by 2030. Depending upon how quickly new vehicle improvements become incorporated in the full fleet average, it should be possible to lower U.S. oil demand by about 3-5 million barrels per day by 2030. Additional fuel economy improvements would be possible by reducing vehicle weight, horsepower, and amenities, or by developing more expensive, step-out technologies.That's something I can heartily agree with, and it's great to hear the oil industry calling for a doubling of fuel economy.



Any mention in the report of the recent rapid increases in domestic consumption in oil exporting countries?
Interesting news item:
VLCC Tanker Rates to Japan Fall About 50% From Last Summer
No collapse forecast as tanker rates fall near year lows
Reuters
Published: July 04, 2007, 00:00
Note that Mexico's cash flow from oil export sales is increasing faster (for now, in their "Phase One" Net Export Decline) than their oil exports are declining:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601086&sid=asL_Fmzu80R4&refer=n...
Mexico's Peso Rises to Highest in Almost a Month on Oil Prices
By Valerie Rota
WT,
I wonder if maybe some of the VLCC rate drop isn't because there is a glut of tankers - not only from reduced deliveries - but also from excess new tankers.
Many new tankers have been planned for years, based on growing demand and Yerginism. Some new tankers must have been delivered this year, but only to find that there is less deliveries of oil taking place even for last years fleet.
So the problem is amplified...hence the 50% rate drop.
Plausible. That means that 2008 may be interesting for shipbuilding as well...defaults on delivery, cancelled contracts...etc.
2008 really shaping up to be turning point in many ways.
I've read a few times that we are in the middle of phasing out single hull tankers for all double hull not sure what the status is of this. But in the interim you would have a tanker glut.
But those would have been scheduled replacements, and then there is NEW capacity.
If they accelerate the replacement/retire of older fleet with NEW capacity, still leaves deliveries of tankers on the books that are not needed...so will still lead to a crunch in shipbuilding in the near future.
Well, its good to get all these groups on record. Otherwise, if Yergin wasn't on record, for example, what would we do for a Daniel Yergin Day ?
Yerganism - now there's a whole new concept. A Yergin day is a brilliant idea, that's if there any days left after love your dog day, hug a stranger day etc.
Talking of Yergin, CERA's 16mbpd, and the NPC's 1.33 new OPEC's we should add Schlumbergers prediction of 24mbpd declines from existing fields by 2010 (from 2006). That will bring CERA up to a nice round total of 40mbpd new production by 2010 and the NPC is in effect looking for more than 2 new OPECs! Or maybe its just 5 new Saudi Arabias. Heck, it's only nearly half global total liquids production by 2010!
We know these new reserves must be there, somewhere, because the NPC are the guys that know these things. Everybody else believes them, so it must be true. Maybe Yergin day can be the day we find them.
We need to add a bubble out on the edge of that map for Titan -- that's where all those extra hydrocarbons are!
Great EROEI, that!
Rename it KSA II and everything comes out right!
The NPC report isn't on their website yet.
I was hoping that we could come to some sort of agreement with the cornucopians so that we could come up with some realistic plans to mitigate the production declines. Your analysis, Stuart, makes it pretty clear that thats not possible. Did they address the issue of production costs?
This is not "some type of progress"--it is merely more of the same, the usual AEI cipher apologetics for the usual TEOTWAWKI-inducing agenda. Not that I blame them, it's pretty late in the game and they're clearly privy to this. The proof is in the pudding, the cliché goes.
Hey, Big Time Dick, bust out those nukes and lets enforce some more global energy security ...
I haven't read the full report yet, but it sounds like it might be progress of a sort. Considering it is the National Petroleum Council and all.
This story, for example:
I suspect we will deal with peak oil obliquely - via global warming, and petro-politics. Peak oil is too scary. Much more comfortable to phrase the problem in terms of climate change and recalcitrant national oil companies.
Fair enough. Just throwing my two cents in--when you've got really flimsy propaganda (meaning that it's easily detectable to critical thought), one occasionally needs to update it to something resembling reality, or at least a reticulation of something resembling reality. Let us remember, that up until I think only a few months ago Mr. Raymond's former corporation did not publicly accept the scientific consensus on CC. This is the tip of the iceberg, no pun intended.
No worries though. Window dressing on more or less absurd scenarios of CERA et al is to be expected. It makes them seem less absurd as it becomes increasingly obvious as time passes forward what the real situation is. It also paves the wave for excuse making ("WMD" is the prime, cynical example at the top of a nauseatingly long list.)
The triple D's of saying nothing: distract, distort and defend. (Maybe that can be applied to this comment. God, I love being a self-hating liberal.)
Gee wilikers what have they been putting in the bath water being drunk here?
Golobal warming scares the bejesus out of me and the only hope I can see is that engendered by Peak Oil. To me it comes down to whether there is a bang or a whimper to end the age of human controlled energy excess. With a bang there may be some pieces to pick up with mitigation there might be nothing except a rather nasty heat death.
Yes, Leanan, I realize that you were talking about how differently the main stream punters would view PO and GW in degrees of fear and you are likely right in that. I am trying to make the point that the NPC,Cera and all the rest of orthodoxy might be right in their actions, even if for very wrong reasons.
Maybe this point has been discussed to death on TOD, if so, I wouldn't mind seeing any articles about it. Or even any threads if there are no articles.
Global warming does not raise the specter of the end of growth. GW, to most of the population, seems like a problem that can be solved with some technical changes but no fundamental change to the infinite growth paradigm.
But you cannot go near peak oil without running smack into that question. Thus, peak oil is far more dangerous than global warming in the attitudes and expectations that it seems to foster.
Ghawar Is Dying as we slide Into the Grey Zone
"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function.
Hi Greyzone,
I agree, like you tell some guy, "hey man you know Peak Oil is on the way and your job as car jockey in the local Suds and Slop car wash is soon to be a thing of the past" and guess what? He will get that picture pronto, but you say "hey man there is going to be climate change with crazy weather, hail, mudslides,dust, dirt, , tornadoes and even an all invasive shitstorm" and all that means to him is one hell of a lot of overtime at that Suds and Slop car wash.
My big fear is that PO will not live up to expectations and cause a soon enough or large enough blow to the belly of the beast to cause an economic collapse deep enough to 'mitigate' the effects the human race is having on the planet.
Global warming does not raise the specter of the end of growth.
Alas, NPC report is in accord with you. Interestingly, note how CC is used in this report not as a major problem to be dealt with, but something which will "lessen demand", and will diversify "alternative energy sources". They know the latter is bs, from a fiscal perspective--which is certainly Mr. Raymond's overriding concern, albeit the only meaningful perspective to take. They in essence say so much, under their breath, by not investing all that much in "alternatives" if you compare to hydrocarbon investments. "Lessen demand" is code for, if things do get hairy--we warned you may be driving too much! (Wow, talk about the pot calling the kettle black...) Mommy tells you "eat all the cookies you want" and then she leaves the room for a minute and comes back to find you sick and bloated from too many cookies she slaps you over the head and says "now if you want a cookie, it's gonna cost you--you know you want some more right? There are no shortages of cookies it's just now all your friends down the street want cookies, and there are evil-doers trying to blow up your cookies" etc etc... You get my drift.
I agree with Leanan* that they would sooner bring out the relatively minor boogeyman of global warming, than the stink bomb of peak oil (and these are all Big Oil guys!) Clearly, because CC is an ancillary issue. We "don't know what causes it" or "even if it is happening at all." Either way, it would cost too much money to fix, right? So fuck it all, BAU.
CC cannot be directly tied to "war" and "terrorism" (PO can). This maintains the facade, the disconnect, between war terrorism and oil. This is a critical distinction, the elephant in the room which our culture has somehow built up immunity too. "National Security", I believe the secret handshake goes...
Why would that be? The reason is pretty clear... CC and other "above ground security and political issues" will be the bellwether front for peak oil. It is far more comforting for businessmen and average Joe to think "well, these here economic problems are at root caused by 'terrorists' and the other ancillary affects of 'combating CC'" (a futile effort if I've ever seen one, one reason among a myriad that conservatives are so uber-cynical... anyone for throwing beach sand at waves? I'll take profits, thank you very much.) This is probably due to the fact that the markets need to be comforted, and even coming close to endorsing worst case scenarios for oil depletion would be tantamount to burning money (surely not something Mr. Raymond would want--can you sense my seething jealousy? ;] )
But you cannot go near peak oil without running smack into that question. Thus, peak oil is far more dangerous than global warming in the attitudes and expectations that it seems to foster.
This is why it is so easy to see how things are going to turn nasty quick, because when you can't even acknowledge a problem, then there is little chance of "fixing" it (particularly problems that seriously border on the insurmountable.) By definition, even if this so-called "progress" continues, actually addressing the root issue is an anathema to everything our society is and wants to be. Predictions are worth the price of storing them on a hard drive (hint: close to nothing) but I believe one can say fairly confidently that you will not hear these birds tweet 'uncle', ever. Why would you when you own everything and you can harp on about above ground issues?
A growing economy based on burning fossil fuels will self-destruct in possibly as little as 30 years.
Leanan
Thats why we need to come to some points of common agreement with the cornucopians and stop focusing on the exact minute of the peak or getting into doomer scenarios. If we have to blame above ground stuff, O.K.. The important thing is to start on mitigation right now.
A couple of days ago we discussed how people change their minds. If they get their ego's involved in the process it really slows the change-look at how the NPC report is still in the global warming denial column, Lee Raymond's contribution. Lee Raymond sees himself as a hero, making giant money for his stockholders and providing the world with prosperity with cheap energy. He and his cohorts are threatened that they have part of the blame for global warming. So we've got to find some agreement so we can enlist them in a common cause. National Security is my best guess as to an opening, but I'm not an expert on conservative, type A psychology.
Bob Ebersole
One can't negotiate with a malignant psychology by trying to make it a friend... Just doesn't work. I'm young and have figured that out, and I believe you're older than me so you should know this doubly. You negotiate with malignant psychology by trying to remove it or reform it, unfortunately neither are really an option as these "things" are deeply entrenched and not going away short of a revolution (which would essentially mean the end of the civilization anyway, since we would be in fact toppling the very psychology that gave us all the wonders of "modern American life"). Perhaps you'll say I'm entering Doomer psychology, tweeting chicken little in my sleep... Although, I respect your attempt at some type of hopeful outcome, it is very unlikely that simply by "saying nice things" about these people that they'll somehow all of a sudden say "Gosh, you know what, you're right, we're just so wasteful, and this profit motive thing--what's that all about anyway?"
I do agree with you though that one must forge on and keep tootin' the horn, no matter what happens. It's just, honestly, trying to wrangle the "higher-ups" is really a lost cause, like pissin' in the wind (or up a rope, take your pick).
From the bottom-up people will do what they find neccessary to prepare for whatever our future holds.
The top-down leadership of our country will do whatever they deem in the "interest" of the "country"--it matters little what you and I say--it's a large world out there (for now) and the people that "run it" are tasked with keeping themselves and their cronies happy. Lets see how long they can keep the jig up.
Ain't dat da troot, eh?
If there are a hundred people in a room, and only one person knows the right solution to a problem, any compromise will yield something less than solving the problem.
That's what we have now. The one solution is Demand Destruction, yet almost everyone in the room is trying to figure out how to compromise on that.
I read an interview with a Conservative once who said, "If you want to change a conservative's mind, you only have to show them how to make more money doing it your way. The only way to change an intellectuals mind is to take it out and put in a different one."
This scenario doesn't work for either now, because 99% of the solutions require Conservatives to stop thinking in Perpetual Growth terms, and they require intellectuals to stop expecting to get grant money from the perpetual growth System.
The Peak Oil scenario will hopefully be mitigated by demand destruction due to economic impact, but if global warming hits hard and fast "With Speed and Violence" (nod to Fred Pearce), then the resource demand may simply increase even more.
Oh... that is so perfect. U.W., Madison just went whore's-ville for some ethanol money. Your words express exactly how I feel.
Speaking of which, did you hear about the dumb sailor that was at sea for six months and then spent 3 days hanging around a warehouse?
Ahhh. As we refer to it from the farm; "The People's Republic of Madison". I'm all for progressive ideas and education, but the first time I drove through Madison, I told my wife I could never work there. "Why is that?"
"No smokestacks." It's like a mini-Washington D.C. All government buildings and Jaguar dealers. (Service Economy, my a.... Farmers get poorer while government contractors get pools.)Cheap food and expensive cars: that's the plan. Well, the price of milk is going up again..At least until people can't afford Pizza deliveries anymore. Time to get some cows, I guess.
"If you want Change, keep it in your pocket."
Now you get to hear my more paranoid theory. The NPC issued a 440 page report in order to bury peak oil where nobody will read about it because its too long and written in beaurocrat double speak. That way, if we're right they can say "we warned you" while making sure nobody but geeks reads the report. Certainly not Congress or the Media, who can be counted on to be lazy.
I understand they have now pulled the graph up at the top that shows how crazy their projections are. The NPC expects EOR to go up about 2,000%, the Saudi's and Iraqis to give us their all, the "alternative fuels" to scale up 1,000% and the crude oil fairy to reveal a couple of new Ghawar fields, all with no consideration for above ground factors, global warming or economic costs. As Matt Simmons has noted, the chances for all of that happening are zero.
Bob Ebersole
The NY Times also sees progress:
Note that this article was written by Jad Mouawad, author of the infamous Oil Innovations Pump New Life Into Old Wells in which he wrote "There is still a minority view, held largely by a small band of retired petroleum geologists and some members of Congress, that oil production has peaked, but the theory has been fading."
In today's article, he also refers to peak oil:
So, he refers to peak oil with the pejorative "so-called" adjective, and he also gets the peak oil definition wrong.
Calorie,
The problem is with Jay Mouawad, not with the NPC report. If you'll skip down to Gail the Actuary's report downthread on the API conference call today you will be pleasantly suprised to see that they reference peak oil and use ASPO graphs as one of their production scenarios in the report.
I really think we are doing the cause of peak oil a real disservice constantly disparaging oil company executives and industry writers. It makes us look crazy. I've been around oil industry people all my life, and they are generally decent, honorable men who have spent their working lives ensuring that gasoline sells for less than bottled water in a gas station. They're not cheats or members of a cartel. They are wrong-headed in their politics, but I have no doubt they love their countries and want whats best for the world.
Even Daniel Yergin, while he's a lousy price predictor, is a fine author and a good historian. He deserved the Pulitzer prize, and I'd happily buy him lunch to meet him.
We need to give respect if we expect respect, and try to find common ground so we can work towards real solutions.
Bob Ebersole
My take on this issue is that the two biggest threats facing US oil & gas independents are ExxonMobil and Daniel Yergin.
When the trillions of barrels of oil that ExxonMobil and Yergin promised us fail to show up as actual production, it is going to give credence to the people who claim that high oil prices are a result of oil companies deliberately withholding oil off the market.
I also listened to much of the meeting today, and I also tend to agree that most are trying to do a good job, trying to be forthright. But I also believe that they are largely accountable to stockholders, etc. and are likely not being entirely forthcoming. And what's good for business may not be what's best for the rest of us.
http://www.energybulletin.net/18111.html
Published on 13 Jul 2006 by Energy Bulletin. Archived on 13 Jul 2006.
Daniel Yergin Day, July 13, 2006
by Jeffrey J. Brown
My concluding comments:
WT,
I know you're right that Exxon-Mobil's and Daniel Yergin's attitude of total denial is the great enemy of all of us who are afraid of punative taxation. The question is have they learned anything from the XOM reversal on climate change?
We've now seen three giant cracks in the cornucopian dam-the IEA report, and now the respect given the peak oil position in the NPC report, and the conservation recomendation. Events are going to make the water leak through soon enough, probably this winter or spring as exports to the US decline and prices continue to escalate. Daniel Yergin is already getting the "above ground factors" line prepared.
The question is: Are we going to be gracious and allow them to revise their position, or are we going to be assholes and rub their noses in it? Remember, it took about 8 years to stop XOM funding the global warming deniers and the Neocons, at least in part because the environmentalists threatened them and demonized them. The world can't afford the fight or the time.
I guess its a landman's perspective-always leave the other guy a face saving out in a negotiation. Its not a good deal unless everybody walks away with something, and nobody should get everything they want.
We really are on the same side. Everyone wants the country and the world to be prosperous and secure. We'd love to see plentiful energy delivered at a fair price, and we all want a clean world for our children. And, our positions aren't that different. This report shows that they acknowledge that there will be a peak, and that we're going to have to change. The difference is about 30 or 40 years on the timing-not very much when you consider the 70,000 year history of mankind, or the 4,000 year history of civilization.
Bob Ebersole