DrumBeat: September 19, 2007

Dawn in the Desert - Saudi High Tech Paying Off at Ghawar Oil Field

By any measure, Saudi Arabia’s Ghawar, the world’s largest oil field with roughly 5 million barrels of daily output, holds an unparalleled significance to the future of global oil supplies. The Haradh area constitutes the southernmost portion of the giant Ghawar complex, and what makes Haradh uniquely interesting is its role as a launching pad for a new era in reservoir management – technology-intensive, smart, and real-time.

Against a backdrop of many international upstream projects straining to achieve their target production levels and intended plateaus, Haradh III reached its planned production capacity of 300,000 barrels per day well ahead of schedule, and the field’s performance more than 18 months since its start-up exceeds virtually all pre-project goals.

Oil at new records for 7th straight day

Oil prices reached record highs for the seventh straight session Wednesday after refineries in California and Texas said they had new outages and the government reported surprisingly large declines in oil inventories.


Oil will hit $100 but probably not in 2007: Pickens

Oil will continue to trend higher after hitting fresh highs over $82 a barrel but is unlikely to puncture the $100 level this year, Texas oilman and investor T. Boone Pickens said on Wednesday.

"You'll hit $100 -- I don't think you'll hit $100 this year unless you have some kind of geopolitical event that causes that to happen, but you're going to get to $100 at some point," Pickens told Reuters in New York.


Oil-rich Gulf states follow U.S. interest rate cut

Oil-rich Arab states in the Persian Gulf followed the U.S. Federal Reserve's interest rate cut Wednesday, raising concerns about rising inflation in the region that pumps a fifth of the world's crude.


Magellan Midstream adding to three terminals: More capacity is planned in Tennessee, Delaware and Louisiana

Magellan Midstream Partners LP announced $85 million in expansion projects Tuesday that will increase its terminal storage capacity by 1.4 million barrels.


Gazprom ready for dialogue on EU energy supply reliability

Gazprom is ready for constructive discussions on Russia's reliability as an energy supplier to Europe, the Russian gas giant's press secretary said Wednesday.

Sergei Kupriyanov's comments follow the European Union's announcement earlier this week that Gazprom and other companies outside the EU would face restrictions in buying up energy assets in the 27-nation bloc. The state-controlled giant currently supplies 25% of Europe's gas, and has purchased stakes in EU energy companies.


Seattle neighborhood excited to ride the SLUT

Officially, it’s the South Lake Union Streetcar. But in the neighborhood where the new line runs, it’s called the South Lake Union Trolley — or, the SLUT.

The $50.5 million project should be completed with streetcars running in December. Underlying the lighthearted opposition, however, is resentment over changes in the old working-class neighborhood.

“There was a meeting with representatives from the city several years ago,” Johnson recalled.

“They asked us, ‘What we could do for you?’ Most people raised their hands and said, ‘Affordable housing,”’ he said. “Then the people from the city huddled together — ‘whisper, whisper, whisper’ — and they said, ‘How about a trolley?”’


Former Pdvsa CEO shows concern about production level

Luis Giusti, former CEO of Venezuelan state-run oil firm Pdvsa, said the statements made by the former Chairman of the Federal Reserve Alan Greenspan about the Venezuelan oil industry confirm his view that Pdvsa oil production has collapsed.

"The industry is faced with a process of drastic deterioration. I wish people only thought what the collapse of Venezuelan production means. This is dramatic. Pdvsa has dropped 2 million bpd," said Giusti.


Journalist Paul Syvret on politics, peak oil and mitigation (podcast)

Paul Syvret, assistant editor and columnist for the Courier Mail newspaper in Australia, talks to GPM's Andi Hazelwood about the forthcoming report on "Queensland's Vulnerability to Rising Oil Prices." Syvret also discusses his coverage of peak oil in the Courier Mail and other News Corp. publications and his own thoughts on peak oil and mitigation strategies.


Curbing consumption: the price of oil and gas supply gaps

As long as energy prices remain affordable for the general public, who needs to be concerned about depleting oil and natural gas reserves? That's a dangerous attitude to have in today's energy environment, suggests the Association for the Study of Peak Oil & Gas (ASPO)-USA.


Problematic power grid plagues Iraqis

Mohammed Ismail spotted trouble earlier this year inside one of Iraq's biggest power plants: soot was building up inside a generator.

Ismail, a contractor who manages a repair project at Baghdad's Dora power plant, says he urged Iraqi officials to shut the generator and clean it. But the Ministry of Electricity refused, he said, because it didn't want to turn off a generator that supplies enough electricity to power about 100,000 homes.

The generator caught fire in April and was closed for repairs that took nearly four months, becoming yet another example of the woes plaguing Iraq's electric grid. Despite nearly $4.7 billion spent by U.S. taxpayers since 2003 on fixing the system, insufficient maintenance, sabotage and other problems mean that residents of Baghdad get an average of just eight hours of power per day.


Gore highlights world population fears

The ballooning world population and the dizzying pace of technological change have helped turn mankind into an environmental "bull in a china shop", says climate crusader Al Gore.

The former US vice-president said the world population has quadrupled in 100 years.


Foreign company to operate Mexico oil pipeline

The handing over of the Mexican Oil Pipeline (PEMEX) network to a foreign private enterprise is closer today and depending on when that right will be granted this year.


Tesco Slaps 3P On Fuel If You Give City A Miss

Supermarket giant Tesco was last night accused of cashing-in on rural communities by charging a premium for petrol at its new store in the north-east.

Customers filling up at the Tesco pumps at Ellon, Aberdeenshire, yesterday paid 94.9p a litre for petrol while prices at the chain's main store in Aberdeen - just 16 miles away - were 3p cheaper at 91.9p.


Exodus for a place in the sun

When it comes to renewable energy, Australia is losing some of its best researchers and ideas.


Irish energy minister says oil rationing “common sense” (podcast)

Ireland’s Minister for Communications, Energy and Natural Resources has claimed that some form of energy rationing system would be a “common sense approach” to the twin challenges of peak oil and transport carbon emissions. Speaking on the sidelines of a conference held by the Association for the Study of Peak Oil in Cork, Eamon Ryan argued that it would be politically difficult to raise carbon taxes high enough to cut booming oil demand in Ireland, and confirmed that his government is investigating the possibility of introducing some kind of energy rationing scheme, perhaps starting with transport. Ryan, whose Green Party formed a coalition with Fianna Fail in July, is one of the first Western energy ministers to publicly acknowledge peak oil. In a lengthy interview with Lastoilshock.com, Ryan went on to discuss Ireland’s particular energy vulnerability, and plans to transform the country’s transport system.


Why oil prices are at a record high

Real and threatened disruptions to crude oil supplies, constraints at refineries in consuming countries, resilient demand and a flow of investor money into oil have fuelled the rally from a dip below $50 at the start of the year.


Peak Coal? Analyst Sees Demand Outpacing Supply

The 25 million-ton surplus of coal will be erased, and replaced with a 103 million-ton deficit by 2020, according to a forecast of Asia-Pacific coal demand by UBS Investment Research Associates and written about in Business World.


POLL - Asia thermal coal price to set new record in '08

Contract prices for thermal coal between Australian producers and Japanese utilities are seen rising by more than 15 percent in 2008, due to reduced Chinese supplies and Australia's port constraints, a Reuters poll showed.

Prices for Asian thermal coal may jump to a record high of $64 a tonne in the 2008 Japanese fiscal year, versus this year's agreed price of $55.65, the median forecast of 10 analysts found. Estimates ranged from $59 to $70 a tonne.


Yemen: On rising gas prices and greedy vendors

For the past couple weeks, propane gas has been prohibitively expensive and to make matters worse, propane vendors have been hoarding their supplies like pack rats, waiting for prices to rise even higher. Their assumption is that the public will be so hungry two or three weeks from now that we’ll be willing to write gas vendors into our wills of inheritance for a tank or two.

So, now, many people are facing threateningly low supplies of propane gas to cook their meals with — during Ramadan, no less — when coming home to an empty tank of propane could drive a person over the edge. How can the government expect civil obedience when citizens can hardly find or afford cooking fuel?


Petrol shortage cripples Sikkim

About 30,000 taxi vehicles in Sikkim are running short of fuel for the last few days due to the restriction on heavy vehicles to drive on the NH, 31A road from Gangtok to Sevoke.

However, 50 per cent of Gangtok taxis have reportedly stopped plying on the road due to the crisis, which has caused chaos in the state. All the heavy vehicles, including petrol tankers, are stranded on either side at the 27th Mile, Lepcha Jhora near Chittrey and Tarkhola, which were not allowed to enter Sikkim due to the overload as several cracks appeared on the NH, 31A road made by incessant rain.


Monks on march again in restive Myanmar city

Nearly 1,000 Buddhist monks marched through the Myanmar city of Sittwe on Wednesday, a day after soldiers fired tear gas and warning shots to scatter a similar protest against the ruling generals, a witness said.

Urging thousands of bystanders not to join in, they staged a sit-in outside the local government offices to demand the release of two men sentenced to two years in jail for giving water to monks protesting against soaring fuel prices last month.


Iraq fuels shortage threatens fishermen

Fishermen in south Basra warn Iraq’s growing fuel shortage is threatening their ability to work, an impending crisis that will exacerbate unemployment.

“The fisherman are about to quit their jobs due to the scarcity of fuel necessary to operate the fishing boats,” Badran Issa, head of the al-Sindbad fishing association in al-Fao told the Voices of Iraq news agency.

“Some 6,000 fishermen have lost hope of getting the fuel they need in order to set sails for fishing, particularly after the fuel ration they receive was cut as of May 1, 2007,” he said, adding his colleagues are forced to the black market to buy fuel at $100 per barrel.


UK: “Hold off October fuel duty increase to help retailers”, pleads RMI Petrol Retailers Association

“With both oil prices and interest rates on the rise, the Government must postpone the fuel duty increase scheduled for 1 October, or risk putting undue financial strain on motorists and petrol retailers alike,” according to Ray Holloway, director of the RMI Petrol Retailers Association.


Fuel prices may push ferry fares higher

For each $1 increase in the price of a barrel of oil, there is a corresponding $96,000 per year increase in fuel costs for the Steamship Authority, according to the agency's treasurer Robert Davis. Yesterday the price of oil topped $81 a barrel for the first time. The difference could add almost $1 million to the projected $74.5 million 2008 operating budget.


How Russia is Nationalized: The Oil Sector

The processes of nationalization in the oil sector are more visible than others and filled with more drama. Still, the state’s desire to capture an ever larger slice of the industy’s income seems logical. But often the methods and appetite of the state companies contradict this logic.


Iran government withdraws $4.7b from Oil Stabilization Fund

Iran's government withdrew 42.054 trillion rials ($4.7 billion) from the Oil Stabilization Fund (OSF) in the first four months of the current Iranian year (started March 21), the Ministry of Economic Affairs and Finance reported here on Wednesday.

The figure shows a 37 percent fall when compared to that of the same period in previous year which was 66.88 trillion rials ($7.2 billion).


Lukoil, PDVSA to construct refinery

Russian oil producer Lukoil plans to build a refinery in Venezuela with the South American country's state company to process heavy oil from the Faja de Orinoco region.


Trouble anew in southern Sudan

Khartoum's unwillingness to budge over oil fields in southern Sudan, despite the 2005 peace deal, is causing concerns of a possible renewed north-south war that could also doom Darfur.


India to Double Ethanol in Gasoline

India will double the requirement for ethanol-blend gasoline and lift a ban on direct production of the biofuel from sugarcane _ measures intended to reduce the country's sugar stocks and address rising fuel demand.


China cuts back on ethanol expansion

As Beijing balks at using grain crops for its local ethanol production, one of China's largest biofuel producers, China Agri-Industries Holdings Ltd. has decided to put on hold plans to build three of its five proposed ethanol plants in the country.


Where's the water to grow biofuels?

The fact is that there is now almost equal global concern over water as there is over energy. The International Water Management Institute (IWMI) has just completed a five-year study of the global water scenario. According to the study, both India and China are in the danger zone when it comes to water; they are using 60 per cent of their entire potential usable water for human purposes. They are approaching 75 per cent, which is the threshold for being considered to be facing water scarcity. It has been estimated that by 2030 Indian cereal demand will go up by 60 per cent from present levels, requiring 84,000 billion litres of water. By then it will require 9 billion litres of ethanol to meet 10 per cent of the country’s petrol needs, adding 22,000 billion litres or about an additional 26 per cent to the country’s water needs. Do we have that much or water?


Kicking Your Head to Get Rid of a Headache: Palm Oil and the Imminent Extinction of the Orangutan

The orangutan, the largest tree-living mammal on the planet, is in crisis. Once a mighty orange army of 300,000 that swung through the dense forests of South East Asia, conservationists say the population has dwindled to fewer than 25,000 concentrated on the two Indonesian islands of Borneo and Sumatra. There, they cling precariously to existence on government-protected nature reserves under siege by developers of one of the world’s most lucrative commodities: palm oil.


BP pulls non-essential crew from US Gulf on storm

BP said Wednesday it was evacuating nonessential workers from oil rigs in the Gulf of Mexico due to the threat of a storm.


Shell Starts Evacuating Gulf of Mexico Staff as Storm Looms

Royal Dutch Shell PLC said it has started evacuating non-essential staff from its offshore Gulf of Mexico facilities.

"Precautionary evacuation" of 300 workers happened on Tuesday, based on the "potential development of (a) tropical disturbance", Shell said. "We are planning to evacuate approximately 400 more (today)," it said.

The evacuation has no impact on the site's oil and gas production, it added.

On Tuesday, the US National Hurricane Center was closely monitoring two storm systems, one just east of Florida and the other in the central Atlantic.


The Oil Scam Driving Crude Over $80

The truth is that 257M barrels of oil for October delivery were bought AND sold on the NYMEX, which started the day with 197,270,000 barrels yet, strangely, suspiciously even, at the end of the day orders for oil to be delivered in October dropped to 171,442,000 barrels. How can the price of something go up while the demand for it goes down? COLLUSION. Collusion is "a secret understanding, esp. for a fraudulent purpose." Yep, that pretty much describes it in a nutshell.


Shell goes on Gulf oil spending spree

Oil major Royal Dutch Shell has gone on a buying spree for Dubai crude this month, pushing up prices for the benchmark Middle East grade, which traders say will hurt Asian refiners already burdened with record costs.


Analysis: Iraq, oil and Greenspan's Gospel

History and reality cap the fallout from former Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan’s one-liner in his new book that the war in Iraq is “largely about oil.”

The mere 20 words in the 500-plus page memoir elicited much media hype and a prompt defense from the Bush administration. Greenspan used the media circuit to qualify -- though not contradict -- what he originally wrote.


Oil-industry execs to hold town hall on energy here

Oil-industry executives will field questions on future energy demands at a UA-area town hall this evening, the second such visit by oil companies to Tucson this summer.

The ConocoPhillips visit comes less than a month after Shell Oil's president spoke at the University of Arizona about the United States' future energy demands and the need to invest in more renewable-energy sources.


No War, No Warming, Rise Up!

The US and the world are in a deepening energy crisis. Easily accessible oil and natural gas are getting hard to find even as the demand for and competition over energy throughout the world accelerates. There is agreement among those who study this issue that we are either right at or very soon will be at “peak oil,” a point where as much oil that is in the ground will have been found and used as there is oil still remaining. And the big problem is that those remaining reserves are getting harder and more expensive to bring out of the ground.

There is a common sense solution to this dilemma. Instead of war in Iraq escalating into war with Iran and who knows where else, the US could lead the world by using its technological know-how and resources to advance a worldwide clean energy revolution. We could rapidly undercut the appeal of Al-Qaeda by withdrawing our troops from the Middle East and promoting, instead, huge solar energy farms in this sun-drenched region of the world. We could help the formerly colonized countries of the Global South who are currently developing their economies by using greenhouse gas emitting coal or dangerous nuclear power. We could help them shift to renewable energy technology to obtain energy via solar panels, wind turbines, the tides or the earth (geo-thermal).


Instant insight: A bright future

Andy Benniston at Newcastle University, UK, explains how photocatalysts could provide the answer to the planet's energy crisis, and reduce CO2 emissions while they're at it.


OPEC'S export capacity to fall - Driving oil prices to US$100 barrel in 2008, forecasts leading oil economist at global energy conference

Oil prices are likely to hit US$100 a barrel by the end of next year as soaring rates of domestic oil consumption in the world's leading oil producing nations cuts into their export capacity, forecasts the chief economist at CIBC World Markets.

Speaking at the 6th Annual Association for the Study of Peak Oil & Gas conference in Cork, Ireland, CIBC World Markets chief economist, Jeff Rubin told delegates that the export capacity of OPEC, Russia and Mexico will drop by 2.5 million barrels per day by the end of the decade. "Domestic demand growth of as much as five per cent per year in key oil producing countries is already beginning to cannibalize exports and will increasingly do so in the future as production plateaus or declines in many of these countries," says Mr. Rubin. "OPEC members together with independent producers Russia and Mexico consume over 12 million barrels per day, surpassing Western Europe to become the second largest oil market in the world.

"At current rates of domestic consumption the future export capacity of OPEC, Russia and Mexico must be increasingly called into question. These trends are likely to result in a sharp escalation in world oil prices over the next few years."


Kirkuk pipeline attack sets Iraq oil back

The international oil market will still have to rely on Basra to supply Iraq’s oil exports as an apparent attack shuts down the Kirkuk-Ceyhan pipeline again.

The pipeline is key to increasing Iraq exports, providing the capacity to increased production. The Bush administration, during benchmark stump speeches last week, held up the newly reopened pipeline as a success story.


Oil Exec: Coherent Energy Policy Needed

Lack of a coherent U.S. energy policy threatens to feed into a sense of "energy insecurity" in this country, the president of Shell Oil Company said Tuesday. John Hofmeister told local business leaders it doesn't have to be that way.

"We have seen our country pass, in my opinion, the tipping point of energy supply keeping up with energy demand in ways that secure our future," he said.


The Real Impact of Sanctions Against Iran: Interview with Chris Cook, inventor of the Iran Oil Bourse

The next few days, the world will be holding its breath as the U.S. is drumming up support for highly controversial sanctions against Iran. The implications of such a move could be potentially disastrous and it's likely we'll see a showdown of who holds what kind of power and where on the planet. In a bizarre twist of fate, a UK consortium that is involved in developing the Iran Oil Bourse (IOB), might stand to benefit from sanctions.


Canadian panel calls for major hike in Alberta's oil sands royalties

A government-appointed panel reviewing Alberta's energy royalties called Tuesday for the oil-rich Canadian province to increase its total take from the energy industry by 20 percent a year, or roughly $2 billion Canadian (US $1.97 billion; €1.42 billion).

The report by the provincial panel targets Alberta's oil sands projects in particular and says royalties have not kept pace with world energy markets.


Basra oil fuels fight to control Iraq's economic might

The province sits on as much as 20 percent of the Middle East's oil reserves.


Big oil’s waiting game over Iraq’s reserves

In Iraq, oil companies face a dilemma. They can wait for the central government in Baghdad to agree a new oil law that will give them a legal framework in which they can operate, and for the security situation to become manageable.

Or they can press ahead and sign agreements with the Kurdistan Regional Government, the authority in the autonomous north of Iraq, at the risk of souring relations with Baghdad and shutting themselves out of deals in the rest of the country.

It is a decision that has so far divided the smaller operators from the majors.


Renewable energy stocks hit

Renewable energy and clean technology stocks hit a peak in mid-July after a stellar first half of 2007 saw the Nex index of clean energy shares gain 30.9 per cent in the first six months of the year, against increases of 6.0 per cent for the S&P 500 and 7.8 per cent for Nasdaq.


EU sets up 50 million euro fund for poor nations to fight global warming

The European Commission on Tuesday announced the creation of a fund to help developing nations battle climate change, putting in 50 million euros (69 million dollars) itself to kick it off.


Scientist warns of climate change impact

Climate change could mean higher temperatures, less winter precipitation and less spring runoff for the Southwest, a climatologist says.


Ban urges countries on global warming

The science is clear and the time short, but the political will is lacking to confront global warming, the U.N. secretary-general said Tuesday.

Ban Ki-moon said he hoped next Monday's "climate summit" here will help galvanize leaders to take action "before it is too late."


SEC Pressed to Require Climate-Risk Disclosures

One of the industries considered most vulnerable to climate change is the insurance industry, with shifting weather patterns threatening property in the nation's most hurricane-prone areas.

Yet in its 345-page annual financial report filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission this year, Allstate, which insures one out of every eight homes in the United States, did not mention climate change, global warming


Greenland's Jakobshavn glacier sounds climate change alarm

The chaotic cavalcade of blueish ice tumbling into the sea from the world's fastest-moving glacier is sounding a daily climate change alarm, say scientists ahead of International Polar Day on Friday.

The Jakobshavn Glacier, on Greenland's west coast, is melting twice as fast as 10 years ago and advancing toward the sea at 12 kilometres (seven miles) per year, compared with six kilometres (three and a half miles) before.

LET's abandon these bio-stunts once and for all - shall we ?

this is a comment I made under yesterdays key-post "A Life Cycle Assessment of Energy Products: Environmental Impact Assessment of Biofuels" - I believe this is paramount to discuss "in these times" ..."

FIRSTLY – absolutely an impressive analysis, but why make it hard when you can make the case obvious and easy – I’m not getting these insane bio-stunts anymore – to me this case is so very closed … and here is why ..

…. its time to sober up and do some REVERSE ENGINEERING on these bio-stunts happening “all over the place”
– this bio-fuel future is incredible easy to scrap (!) if you ask me, how ..?

well, in having a fast peek at World Grain Production – from that link containing this chart

In reading this essay we learn that 2000 million tons of various grains are produced annualy in resent few years ….
This amounts to 2 000 000 000 000 kilograms (or about 300 kg pr capita/person/world)

Now … anyone remember “That Cubic Mile …?” , heavily discussed here at TOD in February this year.
Short : this post revealed that world annual crude extraction was totally round and about ONE cubic mile.

And that ONE Cubic Mile (1 mile = 1609 m), converted into metrics renders (1600m * 1600m * 1600m) = 4 096 000 000 m^3 ……. (And for ease I’ll keep 1 liter of crude ~ 1 kg, spawning m^3 = 1000 kg)

One Cubic Mile of crude oil then comes to: 4 096 000 000 000 kg

ALREADY here we see clearly without doing any advanced thinking to the issues in question that –

TODAYS/2005 SCENARIO "Worlds primary FUEL vs Worlds primary staple FOOD" =>> weight factor 2:1

World Annual Crude Extraction for 2005 =>> 4 Giga tons

DOUBLES

the WORLD GRAIN PRODUCTION for 2005 at =>> 2 Giga tons

.. and now they've started to take from the latter to keep the first at running amounts - what gives first?

Any more to add here (?)

-I mean those 2 Giga tons of of grains ( wheat, corn , rice, sorghum ..) ARE Eaten Every Year these Years – as the World Grain Reserves ARE GOING DOWN - FAR DOWN, they are in the vicinity of 50-60 days only, and going further down.... chill

Keep in mind – my fast calculator-trick here never even addressed the realities of EROEI or any other ifs or buts . In a future of dwindling fossils THE wrooooom ICE is dead – buried and not missed, hey its only converting 15 % of its contained energy into propulsion .. does anyone actually believe that we in a few decades will continnue this ICE/biofuel wastefullness ?

How slim will you accept to become, I mean before you give up your car ?

A bio-jezz, thats what we have

I agree with some of what you say but much of the world grain production is used to feed livestock which could do just fine on a grazing diet although weight gain would be slower. For cattle and other livestock this produces a more heathful product (apologies to vegans) with less impact to the land due to a grass cover vs the production of grain and all of the environmental problems (chemical use, soil loss) that go with it.

The West is becoming a desert now thanx to livestock overgrazing.

There is no more grass to feed except on a "seed corn"
one off basis.

And cows are limited in what grains they can eat.

Pigs can eat junk food though. Saw an article somewhere.

And 3/4 of the world live on a vegan diet, BTW. ;}

Arkansaw of Samuel L Clemens

Just quibbling - but I don't know of any vegan population the world except in recent times. Much of the world is vegetarian or nearly so (Chinese according to the China Study eat on average 1/10 the animal protein we do - so they're not close to being strict vegetarians like some Indians I know).

As an interesting aside my family was looking into organic / local beef just before going vegetarian. We're vegetarian primarily for the planet; but also for our health and lastly for ethical reasons. When peak oil hits all bets are off! Some land is best grazed; but the world has too many people and it would be best if we in the "first" world started having a one-child policy and not taking in immigrants. We're the biggest energy users and it's time we lead by controlling our own bloated population and also by reducing our energy use by 1/4 per person or much more.

Right now I'm kind of miffed that I upgraded our failing natural gas water heater with a 19 gal. electric one and it's cheaper to keep the tank hot and it's cheaper to run and it was 1/3 the cost to install; except it's about 15% higher in terms of CO2 emissions (yea our electricity is provided by a green company - Bullfrog - but dirty energy was used to put up those windmills ....).

praetzel, are you saying the CO2 from windmill construction, amortized over the life of the turbine, is greater per kWh than the CO2 from burning nat gas (and the nat gas plant construction CO2)? I find that unbelievable.

btu, as in British Thermal Units I presume
-I’m taking a wide-angle & zoomed out snapshot of “the bio-fuels” live or let die here, I’m not counting a calorie here and two there ..

* National Farmers' Union, May 11, 2007
Straight to the Source

SASKATOON, Sask.-Today, the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) released its first projections of world grain supply and demand for the coming crop year: 2007/08. USDA predicts supplies will plunge to a 53-day equivalent-their lowest level in the 47-year period for which data exists.

"The USDA projects global grain supplies will drop to their lowest levels on record. Further, it is likely that, outside of wartime, global grain supplies have not been this low in a century, perhaps longer," said NFU Director of Research Darrin Qualman .

Most important, 2007/08 will mark the seventh year out of the past eight in which global grain production has fallen short of demand. This consistent shortfall has cut supplies in half-down from a 115-day supply in 1999/00 to the current level of 53 days.

Australia dropping to 15 million tons while
Russia, Ukraine, China stop exports, while India,
Pakistan import puts the current level below 50 days.

Below MOL.

See the Great Grain Robbery 1973 for a preview
of coming attractions.

Wheat at $15!?

Arkansaw of Samuel L Clemens

Paal, that's true on a global basis. But that's not how the world works.

Consider Argentina or Brazil, two big soybeans exporters with fuel consumption per capita much lower than in the US. If they turn all their soybean oil into biodiesel, possibly diverting some of the land today growing e.g. wheat to soybeans as well, they will be able to run THEIR economies more or less like they are today. Why wouldn't they?

So, people depending today on agricultural exports from other countries will have a serious problem.

Hi Beach Boy.
My post is of philosophical value only at this stage – because the world is not doing what I say it should do (damn this naughty world..:-))) – but to get the gist to my post you must be able to zoom all the worlds problems/challenges down into your own backyard – then study and see if your claims still work out..

example-
Imagine yourself confined inside a small house – You have “20 kg of corn for fuel” and “10 kg of corn for food”, and you are told you have to stay there for “a long time” …. When do you start to produce your bio-fuel… Beach Boy ? Before or after you finished your "corn for food" ....because there is actually a scooter outside, on which you are allowed to circle around the house as you please …

Paal, you're being reactionary and doom-focused again, as you were with the windmill/transport truck comparison.

First, a few flaws in your approximations and assumptions:

  • The specific gravity of crude oil is closer to 900 than 1000, so cut 10% off your estimation for oil amounts from the get go.
  • You assume that the only source for biofuels is grain - foodstuffs and feedstock. Alternatives like switchgrass grow well in arid or inhospitable regions, where grain cannot be grown, and produce quite acceptable quantities of ethanol for the effort entailed in their groth. (Also algae, but that's as yet unproven.)
  • You're talking about biofuels, so that cubic mile of oil has to shrink again. When biofuel is extracted from biomass, it's ready to roll. Crude has (at best, from the article you sourced) an 89% efficiency in its conversion to fuel oil, so we're down to 80% of that effective fuel you spoke of in that cubic mile.
  • Finally, you're once again making the "things are hopeless" generalization by saying "this one technology will not solve our problems". Barring huge advances in farming technology, biofuels cannot replace all the fuel oil consumed in the world wholesale. This is true. However, biofuels are a handy supplement to buy time, and to replace some of the oil in a long-term manner. Electric transport gives us more options. Increases in efficiency act as a multiplier on the effectiveness of any energy source. All you're doing is trolling by decrying the effectiveness of any one source, and, though I've fallen for it (again), I feel that someone ought to point out the flaws in your argument for the benefit of those reading what you write.

Incomplete information, a limited worldview, and calculations based on sketchy numbers trotted out as proof - just as before.

Alternatives like switchgrass grow well in arid or inhospitable regions, where grain cannot be grown, and produce quite acceptable quantities of ethanol for the effort entailed in their groth.

Proof for this please? In the form of links showing plants that are running making industrial quantities.

How about plants that make industrial quantities year over year? Because any biomass scheme that fails to return to the soil what it extracts is doomed to failure as well.

"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." -- Dr. Albert Bartlett
Into the Grey Zone

Right. Apparently there are huge yield differences between growing alternatives like switchgrass on agricultural land with plenty of water and natural gas based fertilizer from what you would get in arid regions without fertilizer. However, the former conditions have used in most estimates of switchgrass production. Also you need to consider how growing it on marginal lands, year after year, without added nutrients would deplete the already poor soil.

Thousands of years of tallgrass prairie formed some of the richest soils in the world, Iowa, Illinois, Minnesota for example. To say that copious amounts of switchgass or any other warm season grass will be produced on degraded soils is BS, but once established, the soil will get more fertile even with an annual harvest of the biomass. This is more the case with a diverse prairie planting than a monoculture.

"...the soil will get more fertile even with an annual harvest of the biomass."

No. You would have to graze and burn it/prairie circa
1865 to get that.

You're taking and not giving back.

Arkansaw of Samuel L Clemens

Hi Darkstorme, you say ...

“Incomplete information, a limited worldview, and calculations based on sketchy numbers trotted out as proof - just as before” –

(good golly miss molly)

Yeah Darkstorm - I’m using the sketchy numbers from EIA, IAE and USDA, what numbers are you running ?

You demand a lot and don’t read too much into my post Darkstorme, please – my post is NOT any EU , US gvt or UN report – its just my little private observation , not more BUT not less either

If being realistic is being doomish, so be it. When you again read me as a doomer I see that as your problem, not mine. I’m just putting up a couple of numbers, which seem to freak you out….. which is good, but my intent was to freak you out, the other way around..

You seem to brand me as a doomer, because I’m not a cornucopian like yourself, so lets meet in the middle and agree that some realistic measures has to be urged today – before some stupid mistakes are made on a too large scale, shall we ?

In following the global energy situation -from my neck of the woods - AND the corresponding and upcoming squeeze for the same – I see a power down scenario alongside conservations – What do you see Darkstorme?

How have high energy prices affected the consumer directly? Read below. (I thought those boxes and packages were gettting smaller and more expensive at the local grocery store!!)

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aCCJtUPikaL4&refer=h...

General Mills Net Rises 8.2% on Prices, New Cereals

Cereal sales rose 5 percent after General Mills increased prices by reducing the size of boxes, generating higher revenue per ounce.

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General Mills, which also makes Green Giant frozen vegetables and Betty Crocker baking mixes, expects costs will rise 5 percent this year as grain and dairy prices increase. The foodmaker plans to raise prices and run plants more efficiently to blunt the effect, President Ken Powell told analysts Sept. 6.

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The company started charging more for Yoplait yogurt in July and may increase prices again to counter rising dairy costs, Jankovskis said.

Milk futures have climbed 64 percent in the past year as U.S. production trailed demand for dairy exports, especially from China and Latin America. The price reached a record $22.45 per 100 pounds on June 25.

General Mills has eliminated slow-selling varieties of Pillsbury refrigerated dough and frozen vegetables while streamlining production. In the past two years, it reduced the number of pretzel shapes in Chex Mix snacks and the number of pasta shapes in Hamburger Helper.

General Mills has eliminated slow-selling varieties... it reduced the number of pretzel shapes in Chex Mix snacks and the number of pasta shapes in Hamburger Helper.

Thank God. I hope they kill the lime flavored potato chips and raspberry-white tea enhanced water soon.

As long as they leave the heart healthy snacks alone we'll get through this.

Will
Lime flavored potato chips are a Frito-Lay product, and, unfortunately for my waistline, I love 'em.
Bob Ebersole

Lime potato chips are the food of the gods. Can't get 'em here, Lay's chips here seem to have gone to 100% sunflower oil instead of the old hydrogenated stuff though. That's what makes them dangerous - we never allowed trans-fats into the house, but now that reasonable oil is used, if I saw lime chips at the store I'd buy a bag. I always snag one when I visit texas.

I don't need enhanced water though. I just strain the chunks out of what comes out of the tap.

I have noticed the smaller packages. Or rather, less in the same sized packages.

I sometimes buy pretzels. The kind that come in individual serving sized bags, for packing in lunches and such. There were ten bags to a box, so one box would be enough for two weeks' worth of brown bag lunches.

I started running short. I thought someone was snacking on them at home. But no, I finally looked closer at the box, and now there's only 8 bags per box. Same sized box, less in it.

I've noticed that Zone Perfect meal replacement bars have shrunk to less than 2/3 the size they were just 6 or 7 months ago. The price is still the same, and my fuzzy memory seems to recall the calories per serving have remained the same. I wonder what carcinogen they've substituted in place of steadily inflating corn derivatives...

My guess...dog food gravy from China.

What is the caloric content of lead?

Nice to see Jeff Rubin's comments. There was a time when I'd bet the other way on anything he said, but he seems to be a lot more up to date on the oil situation now. It has been hard for many financial analysts to go from the 'awash in oil' situation of 1997 to the current geological constraints without at least considering that the tide might turn once more.

His faith in the Oilsands being a future huge producer aren't shared by me. The current water intensive methods are peaking in their own way, so unless we come up with different methods, the production will hit the wall which it is currently leaning against. Toe heel air injection looks promising for the more deeply buried stuff but that's going to be a while before it hits the bigtime.

Maybe someone needs to tell him about the water. Speaking of which, the Jakobshavn glacier.....

I attended the New Orleans speech by John Hofmeister, President of Shell USA. I was the second person that he glad handed before the speech. I had an interesting two or three minutes with him, VERY briefly outlined my ideas, mentioned the Millennium Institute model that I will be working on in DC and got his business card.

The speech was as outlined in the AP article but it was hardly a call to arms. Snippets supported greater "energy efficiency" and "demand side measures" but he REALLY wants to drill more in the USA. Some right words inserted, wrong tone.

Shell sold silicon solar PV so they could work on thin film solar PV.

More Shell owned wind.

Told story that Shell had last 300,000 barrels of product a week after Rita to insert into Colonial & Plantation pipelines but no electricity to get them out (all others out). Called up Secretary of Energy Bodman at wedding rehearsal dinner @7 PM Friday night and told him that *IF* Shell did not get electricity to pump product, US East Coast would face panic buying and massive shortages. Monday Bush would have to call for a National Day of Meditation and not work.

In response to my question, (I mentioned supporting non-oil transportation from electrified RRs to Urban Rail (pointed to streetcar running underneath room we were in) and the "secret weapon of the Dutch" bicycles (I overheard him chat with other Shell employee about wet bicycle rides in Amsterdam).

He agreed in principle and mentioned when he was in charge of new HQ in Amsterdam. They had more bicycle parking spots than auto and Shell was only allowed 1 car parking spot for 4 employees.

I forgot to (others did :-) thank him for the outstanding work Shell has done for New Orleans.

I took the bus to the WTC where he spoke and back. A TOD lurker and Shell employee is transferring back to New Orleans from Houston because he can get by without a car here and prefers the quality of life.

Best Hopes,

Alan

No one can describe what's happening off Ft Meyers, FL.

Except that it's moving West.

And I remember The MS Power Crew being diverted to get the electricity up for that pipeline.

Arkansaw of Samuel L Clemens

Daytona Beach Florida...9 inches of rain in last 4 days and it is pouring out right now.

No one can describe what's happening off Ft Meyers, FL.

They are calling it "an area of disturbed weather" that could become a hurricane over the next few days, once it's over the Gulf.

My first thought was that it won't have time to become very powerful. Then I remembered Humberto, which became a hurricane overnight and surprised everyone. Lesson: the Gulf is very, very hot right now, and that kind of energy can pump up storms quickly.

It's not exactly the same, but Katrina had a sort of similar path the one they are predicting for this one.

P.S. In addition to Shell and BP, Exxon and Chevron have also announced they have begun evacuating their platforms.